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Date:      Tue, 9 Dec 2003 23:39:18 +0200
From:      "Vahric MUHTARYAN" <vahric@doruk.net.tr>
To:        "Kurt Jaeger" <lists@complx.LF.net>
Cc:        Freebsd isp isp <freebsd-isp@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Who are using FreeBSD for Hosting Env. and Which Update Method
Message-ID:  <04a601c3be9c$e79bf840$019c9752@xp>
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Thank I think I will use your method :)) and you method is everyones methode
.... :)))))
Some body said that binary-updates pre-compiled and not compiled for you
system because of this maybe slow down problem can occur

and one more question I'm linux admin I can say more Redhat Admin :) We have
Redhat 7.2 , 7.3 , 8.0 and 9.0 server but I did not think to update or
promode any server  to new version  Do you alwyas update freebsd's when new
stable version released  ? like 4.9 to 5.2



----- Original Message -----
From: "Kurt Jaeger" <lists@complx.LF.net>
To: <freebsd-isp@freebsd.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 11:23 PM
Subject: Re: Who are using FreeBSD for Hosting Env. and Which Update Method


> Hi!
>
> > Which verison FreeBSD are you using ?!
>
> Most of the server: 4.9. Some bit-rot, we're working on it.
>
> > How long does it take to complate all process ?!
>
> For one server, if it's fairly recent: approx. 10 minutes of
> person-time, approx. 1-2 hours wall-clock (compiling).
>
> > You mean I can make source up-to-date (cvsup)  / make world process at
this
> > moment server can response to web clients ?!
>
> Yes. Only a short time (during the installworld and mergemaster)
> the system is in a somehow fragile state, but it works most of
> the time, so we do it in multiuser.
>
> The update 4.9 -> 5.2 will probably be much more difficult and
> we will test it extensibly, before we do it on production servers.
>
> > Why don't you choose binary update methode . Does it have problem ?! or
it's
> > not a true way to keep up-to-date FreeBSD
>
> Good question 8-)
>
> > and do you test those process on other machine before apply those
patches to
> > your production server ?!
>
> Yes, intensivly. We first do it to our desktop systems and testservers
> (approx. 40 systems) before we make the rollout to the visible servers.
>
> --
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