Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 11:09:42 -0700 From: Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com> To: John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>, dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org Subject: Re: git: da51a1211dc7 - main - RELNOTES: Note the deprecation of 32-bit platforms for 15.0. Message-ID: <0EA18905-9EC2-4F44-9FDC-2FD73C591160@yahoo.com> References: <0EA18905-9EC2-4F44-9FDC-2FD73C591160.ref@yahoo.com>
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John Baldwin <jhb_at_FreeBSD.org> wrote on Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 16:55:37 UTC : > On 8/16/23 9:53 AM, John Baldwin wrote: > > The branch main has been updated by jhb: > >=20 > > URL: = https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/src/commit/?id=3Dda51a1211dc799fa123f5d7f041eaf83= c36f976b > >=20 > > commit da51a1211dc799fa123f5d7f041eaf83c36f976b > > Author: John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org> > > AuthorDate: 2023-08-16 16:49:17 +0000 > > Commit: John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org> > > CommitDate: 2023-08-16 16:52:16 +0000 > >=20 > > RELNOTES: Note the deprecation of 32-bit platforms for 15.0. > >=20 > > This draws a line in the sand of removing support for 32-bit worlds > > and kernels aside from COMPAT_FREEBSD32 and lib32 support. The > > project may choose to alter this approach when 15.0 is released by > > extending some level of 32-bit support in 15.0 or later. > >=20 > > In particular, at present there is a fair bit of interest in = retaining > > armv7 support in 15.0 at least. >=20 > This language probably needs further tweaking before 14.0 ships, but = it's a > start at least, and we need to get the associated warning into 14.0 to = give > users lots of heads up before 15.0 ships. The way I read: + stable/14 and earlier branches will retain existing 32-bit + kernel and world support. Ports will retain existing support + for building ports and packages on 32-bit systems on stable/14 + and earlier branches as long as those branches are supported + by the ports system. However, all 32-bit platforms are Tier-2 + or Tier-3 and support for individual ports should be expected + to degrade as upstreams deprecate 32-bit platforms. + + With the current support schedule, stable/14 will be EOLed 5 + years after the release of 14.0. The EOL of stable/14 would + mark the end of support for 32-bit platforms including source + releases, pre-built packages, and support for building + applications from ports. Given an estimated release date of + October 2023 for 14.0, support for 32-bit platforms would end + in October 2028. it seems that armv6 would have continued support until October 2028. (That could be the intent, for all I know. 2028 and armv6 just seems like an odd combination to me.) The text: QUOTE Ports will retain existing support + for building ports and packages on 32-bit systems on stable/14 + and earlier branches as long as those branches are supported + by the ports system. END QUOTE reads to me like only "self hosted" building of ports and packages is referenced. (That may be the intent for the wording, I was not sure.) =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com
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