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Date:      Sun, 06 Jan 2008 19:52:25 -0500
From:      "Alexandre \"Sunny\" Kovalenko" <gaijin.k@gmail.com>
To:        Johannes Dieterich <dieterich.joh@googlemail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: overheating Thinkpad X60s with 7.0-RC1
Message-ID:  <1199667145.899.39.camel@RabbitsDen>
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On Sun, 2008-01-06 at 23:58 +0100, Johannes Dieterich wrote:
> On 1/6/08, Henrik Brix Andersen <brix@freebsd.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 10:26:48PM +0100, Johannes Dieterich wrote:
> > > X and T series of the thinkpads are rather different, even the cores are
> > > completely different (I have a dualcore low-voltage version, I assume
> > > yours is running on a dual Pentium m, or?).
> >
> > FWIW, I haven't seen any temperature related issues on my ThinkPad
> > X60s, which has been tracking -CURRENT for the last year or so.
> >
> > It too has had the IPW3945 replaced by an Atheros wireless card, but
> > it is still using the original HDD.
> >
> >
> Can the HDD change already cause such a thing? Besides that: I have not
> configured anything myself concerning ACPI. Anyone any idea what/where/how
> to check? I DO think that the fan is working. I can hear it (and it does not
> sound ill) and it also shows in
> 
> $ sysctl dev.acpi_ibm
> dev.acpi_ibm.0.%desc: IBM ThinkPad ACPI Extras
> dev.acpi_ibm.0.%driver: acpi_ibm
> dev.acpi_ibm.0.%location: handle=\_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC__.HKEY
> dev.acpi_ibm.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=IBM0068 _UID=0
> dev.acpi_ibm.0.%parent: acpi0
> dev.acpi_ibm.0.initialmask: 2060
> dev.acpi_ibm.0.availmask: 16777215
> dev.acpi_ibm.0.events: 0
> dev.acpi_ibm.0.eventmask: 2060
> dev.acpi_ibm.0.hotkey: 1443
> dev.acpi_ibm.0.lcd_brightness: 0
> dev.acpi_ibm.0.volume: 9
> dev.acpi_ibm.0.mute: 0
> dev.acpi_ibm.0.thinklight: 0
> dev.acpi_ibm.0.bluetooth: 0
> dev.acpi_ibm.0.wlan: 1
> dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_speed: 4071
> dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_level: 0
> dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan: 1
> dev.acpi_ibm.0.thermal: 62 61 -1 58 43 -1 40 -1
> 
> Now not being touched at all for an hour and just idling around. Besides it
> did work under 6.2 without problems, would be a crazy coincident if right
> with the update the fan broke.
> 
> Any idea anyone? :S

First -- the disclaimer -- mine is X60 (not X60s), but with 1.83GHz
32-bit CPU, so it should be somewhat similar to yours. At the moment it
has USB drivers loaded, which tends to bump CPU utilization and
temperature. It has UltraBase attached and is sitting on top of the
aluminum passive cooler pad.

It was bought originally with the Atheros card and 100GB drive and 1GB
of memory was added later to the total of 2GB.

System is -CURRENT as of January 5th 18:00 EST. This laptop was tracking
-CURRENT pretty close since I have acquired it 15 month ago. It does
buildwords with -j5 at least weekly.

At the moment, I am writing this E-mail and playing some music, using
Amarok. It is on the wired network ATM, but I do not recall any thermal
problems while using wireless connection.

dev.acpi_ibm.0.%desc: IBM ThinkPad ACPI Extras
dev.acpi_ibm.0.%driver: acpi_ibm
dev.acpi_ibm.0.%location: handle=\_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC__.HKEY
dev.acpi_ibm.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=IBM0068 _UID=0
dev.acpi_ibm.0.%parent: acpi0
dev.acpi_ibm.0.initialmask: 2060
dev.acpi_ibm.0.availmask: 16777215
dev.acpi_ibm.0.events: 0
dev.acpi_ibm.0.eventmask: 2060
dev.acpi_ibm.0.hotkey: 133
dev.acpi_ibm.0.lcd_brightness: 0
dev.acpi_ibm.0.volume: 7
dev.acpi_ibm.0.mute: 0
dev.acpi_ibm.0.thinklight: 0
dev.acpi_ibm.0.bluetooth: 1
dev.acpi_ibm.0.wlan: 1
dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_speed: 2874
dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_level: 0
dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan: 1
dev.acpi_ibm.0.thermal: 62 52 -1 61 39 -1 37 -1
RabbitsDen# sysctl -a | grep temperature
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 62.0C
hw.acpi.thermal.tz1.temperature: 62.0C
dev.cpu.0.temperature: 63 // You need coretemp.ko loaded 
dev.cpu.1.temperature: 63 // to get these values.
RabbitsDen# 

I does look shade cooler then yours, and fan is running at the lower
speed.

I will try to list things that I do/have done, and you can compare them
to your setup:
-- BIOS is updated to the latest level (I do keep XP partition for this
specific purpose).
-- I run powerd:
powerd_enable="YES"
powerd_flags="-a adaptive -b adaptive -i 75 -r 65"
-- I set hw.pci.do_power_nodriver="3" in /boot/loader.conf
-- I run GNOME (please, no religious wars here)
-- I set low CPU state to C2 in rc.conf
performance_cx_lowest="C2"    # Online CPU idle state
economy_cx_lowest="C2"       # Offline CPU idle state

I could not think of anything else related to the temperature, ATM.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Johannes
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Alexandre "Sunny" Kovalenko




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