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Date:      Mon, 20 Jan 1997 21:08:10 -0800
From:      "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>
To:        Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org>
Cc:        joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Commerical applications (was: Development and validation 
Message-ID:  <19120.853823290@time.cdrom.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 20 Jan 1997 11:34:50 MST." <199701201834.LAA15733@phaeton.artisoft.com> 

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> > Articles of more than five pages should be required to come with an
> > abstract...
> 
> Abstract

This has to be one of the more blatant subject hijackings I've ever
seen.  I think Joerg was talking about abstracts for magazine
publication, not more pulpit pounding over our organizational
structure.

Since you seem to be so motivated to change things, however, rather
than just advancing these byzantine and ultimately useless statements
of the obvious (Readers Digest version for those who have fallen
asleep at this point: "I think you're doing something wrong, my
``evidence'' clearly shows it, stop doing that") why don't you instead
try and suggest practical solutions?

You say we're too ossified yet you also agree (I hope) that quality
control and not letting just any CS undergrad who only learned to
spell "C" last month hack the kernel code is a good thing.  What
system would you propose in its place?  If this system also involves
that additional tools be implemented, an indication of your
willingness to write those tools should the proposal be accepted would
also be apropos.

Otherwise, enough about the social organisms already.  We don't need
Darwin standing around arguing the evolution of our structure or its
inevitable decline should it not adapt (the nature of those
adaptations being, unfortunately, left undescribed).  If you want to
help, try to be more the practical engineering type who says "Well, I
don't really know how long this thing will last, but if you put a
little glue over there and erect a supporting column here, it will
stand up for at least another 5 years."  He may not have a set of
clever predictions for where we'll be in 10, 25 and 100 years like the
Darwin guy, but he can help us stay alive another 5 and that's all
that really matters right now.  Sometimes you really do just have to
take care of the present first.

					Jordan



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