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Date:      Thu, 11 May 2006 19:44:23 -0700
From:      jekillen <jekillen@prodigy.net>
To:        freebsd-questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Paticipation rather than griping.
Message-ID:  <191ac950d308bc36847f124e686b38f2@prodigy.net>

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As a gesture of participation in this group and a FreeBSD user my self, 
I have had more
track record with Photoshop and Quark Express on Mac. I also have two 
high resolution
color laser printers. I can grab a logo off the web page and load it 
into photo shop, do a
color separation and print a proof and submit it to some one with some 
sway in FreeBSD.
But seriously, a good high resolution file can be rastorized and sent 
to a printer complete
with text (rastorized in the image) and a printer  can print it from 
the Rastorized file on a laser printer.
It doesn't need to be done 4 color offset.
I expressed some question of the new logo but consider that I am not 
technically advanced
enough to contribute things like patches, or BETA testing.
Another responder to my logo subject e_mail asked me since I 
represented my self as a
graphic designer and fine artist why I didn't submit something to the 
contest. It didn't dawn
on me at the time. But, now I am coming up with some design ideas that 
are in somewhat
of a totally different direction and reflect what my personal 
preferences in a logo would be.
That is too late in the game but I would like to work up some ideas 
that you can review and
keep on a shelf if they are interesting enough. I have just finally got 
my web site back on the 'air'.
But I don't want to exploit the list for the sake of self promotion. 
Direct responses to me via
e-mail and positive inquiries as to how and to whom I can submit some 
hard copy sketches
and preliminary proofs. I can't reproduce volumes of copies on large 
format lazer without
charging something. It costs over $900.00 to replace the toner on this 
machine and $700
some odd to replace it on my 8.5 X 11 printer. I am a glorified 
hobbyist. I make virtually no money
so far in spite of spending the last 10 years trying to learn how to 
use computers and software,
doing javascript, php, mysql, various other scripting languages to get 
up a decent enough
web site. This is why I like open source, I have even drifted away from 
the expense of keeping
up with Mac hardware and software. I have Yellow Dog Linux running on 
my older Macs.
I can understand the frustration that volunteers must feel that assume 
responsibility for a
commendable project like FreeBSD. So in conclusion, instead of griping 
about the logo,
I will offer what I can contribute. You wouldn't mind if I posted my 
own logo ideas for Free
BSD on my web site? I will give out the domain name to direct e-mail 
response. My site
is served over an ADSL connection and hasn't been stress tested. And it 
won't be for a
few weeks before I get a presentation posted.
Thanks for being here;
Jeff Killen (in Los Angeles)
(JK)
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