Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 15:32:30 +0200 (MET DST) From: Wolfgang Helbig <helbig@MX.BA-Stuttgart.De> To: peter@grendel.IAEhv.nl (Peter Korsten) Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ISDN drivers/cards Message-ID: <199708091332.PAA00255@helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> In-Reply-To: <19970809055307.20710@grendel.IAEhv.nl> from Peter Korsten at "Aug 9, 97 05:53:07 am"
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> Wolfgang Helbig shared with us: > > > > > > This is really my main point, bisdn works for some folks and not for > > > other, but is no real reliable base for part of FreeBSD. It's a mess and > > > that could explain why some people have so much luck and other don't. > > > Mostly boiling down to "luck" I expect. > > > > The messy part starts when you try to run ppp over isdn. But straight > > bisdn-097 works fine for a lot of people. I installed it nearly a year ago > > successfully. It was one of the first things I did with FreeBSD, so > > it didn't take much expertise to install. > > But as a matter of fact, raw IP over HDLC isn't really used outside > of Germany. At least, it isn't used one country to the west, the > Netherlands. I also notice that people speaking in favour of bisdn > are called 'Wolfgang' and 'Hellmuth', both your average German name. So call me by my hebrew name, seev :-) But seriously, also in Germany most ISPs only offer PPP connections to private customers, mostly because they want to serve more customers than they have IP addresses and thus need some protocoll to use dynamically assigned addresses. So I'm rather lucky being able to use the network of the ``Berufsakademie'', which is a school in Stuttgart I am teaching at as for part time. My main Internet connection is via a PC located in the Berufsakademie, which is running FreeBSD and bisdn. On the other hand the ISPs at least in Stuttgart *do* offer ISDN-connections with raw IP over HDLC to business customers, some of which are happily using FreeBSD machines with bisdn for routing and firewalling. So there is at least some use of bisdn-097 and it should be similar in other Eurorpean countries. > I need PPP to make my ISDN card of use and though the bisdn code > may be okay (I can neither confirm nor deny that), installing it > is a real pain in the you-know-what and the PPP-hack looks really > yuckie to me. > > I would be very happy with ISDN-card support as a LKM and a PPP > daemon that can talk to something else than a serial line. If > I could offer help in this, feel free to mail me. Just grab bisdntest-2 (if you're running FreeBSD 2.2.2), bisdn-097 and BISDN-ppp-FreeBSD2.2.tgz from ftp.muc.ditec.de, try to make it work, and fix it if it doesn't. I understand that bisdn is rewritten by Hellmuth. The next release might hit the disks in about a year. For the time being, a tutorial is needed for installing/configuring bisdn and ppp. So if you want to help ... Wolfgang
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