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Date:      Sat, 7 Mar 1998 16:59:49 +1030
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        shimon@simon-shapiro.org
Cc:        freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, Omar Thameen <omar@clifford.inch.com>, Tom <tom@sdf.com>
Subject:   Re: getting oriented with RAID
Message-ID:  <19980307165949.63405@freebie.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <XFMail.980306223001.shimon@simon-shapiro.org>; from Simon Shapiro on Fri, Mar 06, 1998 at 10:30:01PM -0800
References:  <19980307163951.57653@freebie.lemis.com> <XFMail.980306223001.shimon@simon-shapiro.org>

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On Fri,  6 March 1998 at 22:30:01 -0800, Simon Shapiro wrote:
>
> On 07-Mar-98 Greg Lehey wrote:
>> On Tue,  3 March 1998 at 17:28:48 -0800, Tom wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Omar Thameen wrote:
>>>
>>>> I really want to make sure I understand the implementation of RAID
>>>> on freebsd, because it looks like a great thing to have on production
>>>> servers.  Sorry if this continues to be very basic.
>>>
>>>   Sorry, there is no "implementation of RAID on freebsd".  RAID is
>>>   handled
>>> by the controller.  FreeBSD just sees a big disk.
>>
>> You're just barely correct.  I'm writing a software RAID 5
>> implementation.  ccd is a RAID 0/1 implementation.
>
> Ccd knows how to do ``write-only'' RAID-{0,1}.  To recover from a failure,
> under CCD is less than automatic.

Tell me about it.  It's about as easy as reading in a backup.

> Also, to put your boot device on ccd RAID is less than trivial.

I haven't tried that.  Until recently, I didn't know it was possible.
It should be possible with vinum, but I haven't finalized the details
yet.

> Recovery and management tools are essential for most people.

Don't expect me to praise ccd.  As far as I can tell, it's broken.  I
originally wanted to upgrade it for the features I wanted to add, but
there's almost nothing of the original code left.

Vinum recovers from failures automatically, even now.  It also does
(or will soon do) a lot of other neat things.

Greg

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