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Date:      Fri, 1 May 1998 19:22:54 -0500 (CDT)
From:      George Vagner <vagner@spdc.ti.com>
To:        Brian Somers <brian@Awfulhak.org>
Cc:        questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: commands 
Message-ID:  <199805020022.TAA11336@epcot.spdc.ti.com>

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At 11:16 PM 5/1/98 +0100, you wrote:
>> where can I learn about those neet commands on the "set login" line?
>> 
>> i am still trying to figure out the "\"\ \ "\ thingy  hehe..
>> 
>> thanks
>
>I think the best examples are in the man page:
>
>[.....]
>        set dial chat-script
>[.....]
>           For example (wrapped for readability);
>
>                 set login "TIMEOUT 5 \"\" \"\" login:--login: ppp \
>                 word: ppp \"!sh \\\\-c \\\"echo \\\\-n label: >&2\\\"\" \
>                 \"!/bin/echo in\" HELLO"
>[.....]
>
>And if you think that's confusing, take a look at the ppp.8 source:
>
>.Pp
>For example (wrapped for readability);
>.Bd -literal -offset indent
>set login "TIMEOUT 5 \\"\\" \\"\\" login:--login: ppp \e
>word: ppp \\"!sh \\\\\\\\-c \\\\\\"echo \\\\\\\\-n label: >&2\\\\\\"\\" \e
>\\"!/bin/echo in\\" HELLO"
>.Ed 
>

so how in the &^#% can a normal user configure their login without knowing
this cryptic symbolism? your telling me that anyone who wants to
log into a provider has to send a message to questions so the guru's
can debug their login script or the user has to learn the symbolisms.

I think there has to be an easier way, this kind of cryptic trickery
is just what turns people off about freebsd, it takes 3 phd's and 17
techs to figure out how to log into another computer! how do you expect
"normal" people to figure this out on their own.

i think the "expect" program has an easier way of doing things but what do i
know i am just a user.



>
>-- 
>Brian <brian@Awfulhak.org>, <brian@FreeBSD.org>, <brian@OpenBSD.org>
>      <http://www.Awfulhak.org>;
>Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour....
>
>
>
>
Laszlo Vagner
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