Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 23:12:20 +1000 From: Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au> To: nik@iii.co.uk Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: newbies resources page Message-ID: <19980516231220.21276@welearn.com.au> In-Reply-To: <19980515094848.64129@iii.co.uk>; from nik@iii.co.uk on Fri, May 15, 1998 at 09:48:48AM %2B0100 References: <19980505162032.31666@welearn.com.au> <19980514133926.32628@iii.co.uk> <19980514230445.50671@welearn.com.au> <19980514183700.65505@iii.co.uk> <19980515063350.38176@welearn.com.au> <19980515094848.64129@iii.co.uk>
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On Fri, May 15, 1998 at 09:48:48AM +0100, nik@iii.co.uk wrote:
> [ I'm going to cc: this to -doc, since it's probably useful for others
> as well ]
Hey Nik, thanks, this is great!
> On Fri, May 15, 1998 at 06:33:50AM +1000, Sue Blake wrote:
> > OK, well here's where I'd got to already, without actually knowing SGML.
> > With much determination I found a bunch of likely-looking files at
> > ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/www/data/ and grabbed a
> > few examples plus anything I didn't recognise as a web page.
> >
> > It looks like the first ten and last four lines are the same in each
> > file.
>
> <snip>
>
> OK. Conceptually, this is how it works.
>
> Each page is an amalgamation of data from at least two sources.
>
That all made good sense. Just a couple more things to check...
> Looking at newbies.sgml from the top down:
>
> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN" [
So we don't have to bother with HTML4 yet?
> <!-- $Id$ -->
>
> is another RCS tag. This will expand to the ID of this file (it's name,
> when it was last edited, who by and so on) and be placed in an SGML comment
> when the file is checked in.
>
> <html>
> &header;
>
> This is the standard beginning of an HTML document. We then include the
> &header; entity.
So why isn't the <html> included in the &header; entity as well?
> Lower case I explained above. I did change the list items. You had
>
> <li>text text text<p></p></li>
>
> which is probably valid HTML, but isn't 'clean', so I changed it to
That's what I was thinking, but it was in whatever I was using as a model
and I couldn't provide any serious reasons against it so it stayed.
Thanks for clarifying.
> > The main problem that I have so far is that there's no way to see
> > what it looks like and check the links when I'm finished, except for
> > using a bit of imagination and lots of carefull eyeballing or modifying
> > the file slightly to display it in a web browser.
I knew it was time to stop asking questions, I just knew it...
> For this you can use CVSup
Oh no! Another thing to learn! :-)
> to download the entire web site. This includes
> a 'Makefile' which you can use to turn individual pages into HTML with
>
> % make newbies.html
>
> or use it to build a local copy of the entire site with
>
> % make
OK, but I haven't got space for it right now. I will learn about CVSup
when there's more space here, honest :-)
Oh, another thing. What happens if someone does something that's hideous,
or that just wouldn't be right on the web site. How is that dealt with?
> Hope that helps,
Yep, the puzzle's really coming together! For others too, I hope.
--
Regards,
-*Sue*-
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