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Date:      Thu, 4 Jun 1998 16:33:03 -0600
From:      Nate Williams <nate@mt.sri.com>
To:        Mike Smith <mike@smith.net.au>
Cc:        Nate Williams <nate@mt.sri.com>, dyson@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: kernfs/procfs questions... 
Message-ID:  <199806042233.QAA04941@mt.sri.com>
In-Reply-To: <199806042123.OAA02195@dingo.cdrom.com>
References:  <199806042222.QAA04845@mt.sri.com> <199806042123.OAA02195@dingo.cdrom.com>

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> > I argue shouldn't be exposed to the users then.  If it's exposed, it
> > should be documented.  In other words, sysctl should go away since very
> > few (if any) of it's knobs are documented except accidentally.
> 
> You aren't clear *which* sysctl should go away.  If you mean sysctl(8), I
> hope you will be removing gdb, nm, hexdump, etc. as well, as these are 
> all user-unfriendly tools designed for studying and/or adjusting the 
> state of complex, undocumented things.

But users aren't expected to use gdb/nm/hexdump, but sysctl is.  Many of
these parameters *should* be tweaked to get better performance, avoid
errors, etc...

> sysctl(8) is a tool for writing scripts, and performing tasks which 
> have been previously documented.  It is not a user-friendly interface, 
> however it still exists to serve a purpose.

What tasks have been documented that are used by sysctl?

Tell me where 'sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.rfc13230=0' is documented.  (And,
no I don't consider it's presence in rc.network documentation. :()



Nate

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