Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 01:00:45 +0200 From: Eivind Eklund <eivind@yes.no> To: Tim Vanderhoek <hoek@hwcn.org> Cc: drifter@stratos.net, Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>, fpawlak@execpc.com, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Does it's true? Message-ID: <19980629010045.04155@follo.net> In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980628132305.24608B-100000@james.hwcn.org>; from Tim Vanderhoek on Sun, Jun 28, 1998 at 01:34:49PM -0400 References: <19980628172900.08399@follo.net> <Pine.GSO.3.96.980628132305.24608B-100000@james.hwcn.org>
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On Sun, Jun 28, 1998 at 01:34:49PM -0400, Tim Vanderhoek wrote: > On Sun, 28 Jun 1998, Eivind Eklund wrote: > > > This is depend very much on where you introduce humans and human > > worth. IMO, human worth is connected to relationships, both to other > > humans and to self. If you want to bring in 'potential' at an early > > pre-born stage, you're on a slippery slope - what about the potential > > of the kid you could have with the lady over on the right? We're > > Your theorized basis for human worth is showing. An infant at a > pre-born stage has no relationships to other humans, therefore > its only value can be derived from its "potential" value. Not true. An infant has people that relate to it, even though they haven't met it yet. > However, as you rightly point out, the argument about "potential" > value in a pre-born infant is mostly null (unless you can > demonstrate that a particular pre-born was very genetically > predisposed to developing at some point in the future many strong > relationships with other humans). Wrong in several ways - I included "relationship to self", and it can have relationships as per the description above. > You may rightly guess that the value of a human is derived from > more than just how many names said human can list. :-) Of course :-) Human worth is a gradual process, much related to at which point we're conditioned to consider people to have it. It get ridicilous almost no matter how you slice it, as we're just talking about an abstraction, a feeling. Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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