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Date:      Wed, 29 Jul 1998 08:59:13 -0700
From:      Amancio Hasty <hasty@rah.star-gate.com>
To:        Nate Williams <nate@mt.sri.com>
Cc:        Flemming Jacobsen <fj@login.dknet.dk>, dburr@pobox.com (Donald Burr), freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, phk@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: The future of the bt848 driver? (FW: cvs commit: CVSROOT avail) 
Message-ID:  <199807291559.IAA01494@rah.star-gate.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:20:08 MDT." <199807291520.JAA26782@mt.sri.com> 

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Hi Nate,

You got the essence of my dispute furthermore  I posted to the hacker's mailing
asking for a policy clarification for scenarios like Soren and I and I got
0 response. 

	Amancio

> > > Why did it have to come down to this, anyway?  (Enquiring minds want to
> > > know...)
> > 
> > Since it's unlikely that any of the three will comment, I'll
> > share what I know. 
> > 
> > I've known PHK since highschool, and Soeren for a couple of
> > years, thus when I saw Amancios post on -multimedia I sent them a
> > mail which (in essence) said "What the fuck are you two bozos
> > doing ?". We exchanged a flurry of emails that day (Fri 17) -
> > sharing main language and timezone works wonders for communication.
> > 
> > What happened seem to be:
> >   Soeren sent Amancio a patch to get his AVer Media card working 
> > (10 lines added to the card table).
> >   After waiting for 1+ months, Soeren checked it in himself.
> >   Amancio didn't like this and wanted to back it out, but was
> > told by PHK that this was unacceptable unless he added the same
> > functionality.
> >   Amancio couldn't accept this, and walked out.
> 
> Yep.  The only thing I want to point out is that both PHK and S'ren both
> threw out the "I'm a core member and you better do what I tell you else
> we'll yank your commit privileges" bit, which rubs *everyone* wrong.
> This isn't the first time they've been heavy-handed about it, nor will
> it be the last.
> 
> It annoys me that they can do *wrong* things in many people's minds and
> justify them by being a 'core' member.  Being a core member doesn't make
> it right anymore than just because they company is named Microsoft makes
> everything they do wrong.
> 
> 
> 
> Nate



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