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Date:      Fri, 4 Sep 1998 01:18:15 +0200
From:      Eivind Eklund <eivind@yes.no>
To:        Yoav Cohen-Sivan <ycs@netvision.net.il>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Better SNR suggestion for the mailing lists
Message-ID:  <19980904011815.33295@follo.net>
In-Reply-To: <35EF1D18.FF4A06B3@netvision.net.il>; from Yoav Cohen-Sivan on Fri, Sep 04, 1998 at 01:50:00AM %2B0300
References:  <35EF0C6D.C3ACAD5F@netvision.net.il> <xzpbtowsvjl.fsf@hrotti.ifi.uio.no> <19980904002302.28650@follo.net> <35EF1D18.FF4A06B3@netvision.net.il>

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On Fri, Sep 04, 1998 at 01:50:00AM +0300, Yoav Cohen-Sivan wrote:
> Eivind Eklund wrote:
> > 
> > The problem with this is the same as requiring subscriptions for
> > posting at all - a lot of us are subscribed through different accounts
> > than we post from (I, for instance, am subscribed through my
> > FreeBSD.ORG account except for the lists where I made a mistake), and
> > it is not very practical to have to post through those addresses.
> > 
> 
> I can see two solutions:
> 
> 1) Resubscribe using your regular posting address. It is an
> inconvenience, but a small _one-time_ inconvenience to pay for clean
> lists.
> 
> 2) Add an option, so that when one subscribes he can list a set of
> e-mail addresses he'll use for posting.
> 
> I have no idea how feasible #2 is, it sure sounds like a load on the
> mailing list server. It seems to me #1 is ideal.

It is not convenient, especially if combined with a 'have to be on an
address that has been subscribed for a long time to post' policy.

> Out of curiosity, why would someone consciously subscribe from an
> address he doesn't use? Do you use aaa@bbb to post, but read from
> ccc@ddd? How many people do this routinely?

_Many_, at least among the committers.

I do it because I want to be able to move the list mail around by just
changing my .forward, instead of having to unsubscribe and resubscribe
all the lists.  This is convenient e.g. if I go to visit and work with
somebody...

> > I think a moderated list for architecture discussions is a better way
> > of handling this, and have thus volunteered to moderate one (I'd like
> > not to have to, but it seems like the only way to get a really good
> > list).
> 
> Now, _that_ is a lot of work. I can't see how everybody suffering a bit
> from #1 above is worse than slowly driving a couple of moderators crazy
> ;-)

Well, moderated lists generally have more benefits than closed-to-post
lists.  The problems are mostly when discussions start warping with
the regular subscribers, anyway...

Eivind.

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