Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 23:24:10 +0100 From: Eivind Eklund <eivind@yes.no> To: Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au> Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: X desktop contest? + Desktop Env Message-ID: <19981109232410.01531@follo.net> In-Reply-To: <19981110090436.07651@welearn.com.au>; from Sue Blake on Tue, Nov 10, 1998 at 09:04:36AM %2B1100 References: <Pine.BSF.3.96.981109094722.19667A-100000@andrsn.stanford.edu> <Pine.BSF.4.05.9811092120310.7784-100000@gamefish.pcola.gulf.net> <19981110090436.07651@welearn.com.au>
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On Tue, Nov 10, 1998 at 09:04:36AM +1100, Sue Blake wrote: > On Mon, Nov 09, 1998 at 09:22:25PM +0000, Phillip Salzman wrote: > > > > The default shells are because of an attempt to keep ``standard''. > > Although, I believe we should also include tcsh or bash... but I think > > they are under GPL license. Well, I think bash is. > > There's a few newbies and 386 users who have discovered the virtues of > the plain old sh with 'set -o emacs' turned on. The one and only > essential is the up arrow for command history, and I reckon that's the > real reason why many of new installers wish it had bash. All the other > shell features can go jump for the first few months, but command > history is essential and csh doesn't cut it, not by a long shot. > > When it's time to learn more, it's also time to learn about scripts and > what better way than to be able to use the same syntax on the command > line. Why would I ever need more than sh? After nearly a year it still > serves every purpose I know of, *and* the man page is more digestable. It lacks completion. That's the most important part. That's IMHO essential. Apart from that, I like the ability of zsh to do more advanced pattern matching, but that isn't as essential as as the lack of completion (and every shell I know of except zsh lack full completion - zsh can complete _everything_ - globs, shell escapes, history escapes, cvs <xxx> - you name it, zsh can complete it :-) Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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