Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:47:27 +1000 From: Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au> To: rick hamell <hamellr@dsinw.com> Cc: otter@tig.com.au, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Very basic questions... Message-ID: <19990510124727.42190@welearn.com.au> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.91.990509183540.9185M-100000@dsinw.com>; from rick hamell on Sun, May 09, 1999 at 06:48:20PM -0700 References: <3.0.5.32.19990510111738.007b0150@pop.tig.com.au> <Pine.BSF.3.91.990509183540.9185M-100000@dsinw.com>
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On Sun, May 09, 1999 at 06:48:20PM -0700, rick hamell wrote: > > You might want to be looking into another ISP then....:) Whoah! That's pretty much the way of things here in Australia. People in the USA can't imagine what it's like for the average Internet user in other countries. Most commonly we pay so-much a month, say $30-$50, and for that you get ten, twenty, or some other fixed number of hours per month. If you go over your time allocation, they impose really heavy hourly charges for excess time. A few of us have a different arrangement, where we don't pay for online time, just for each megabyte received by our system. Or you can get casual access at some places for around $10-$12 per hour. All local phone calls are charged in Australia too, while most of our continent's land mass would be a long distance call to the nearest ISP. So there's no way someone totally naive is going to waste time fossicking through the www.freebsd.org web site without some idea of what they're looking for and how to get there quickly, and the motivation to do so. A few pointers here would help a lot in this situation. Searching the mailing list archives is good if you know exactly what you're looking for and have good searching skills, but it's hell-on-a-stick if you're watching the clock. In these circumstances, asking on this list and/or the newsgroup for initial orientation is sensible. It demonstrates someone taking the initiative to solve a problem, one of the main determinants of future success with FreeBSD. BTW, I'm surprised that nobody has recommended our own Newbies page. It is supposed to serve exactly this function: to show totally lost newbies what newbie-relevant online resources they should access first. Since no newbie has ever complained or suggested a single change to the page, you must all be blissfully happy with it. The easiest way to get there is to go to www.freebsd.org (it works fine without images too) and look for the Newbies link under the Documentation subheading at the left. That left hand panel, and the newbies page, will lead you to just about everything you'd be looking for. But there's no substitute for one newbie giving another newbie some words of personal experience and encouragement. I'm not talking here about how-to, but about how-it-feels. A lot of us have come into this from a Microsoft background and once wondered if it could just possibly be within our ability to grasp some of this unix stuff one day. This leads to questions which do not have technical answers but people answers, and the right people to answer them are other newbies. -- Regards, -*Sue*- (` () '` <-- a +3 uncursed budgerigar named Einstein To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message
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