Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 00:00:09 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney <gurney_j@efn.org> To: Julian Elischer <julian@whistle.com> Cc: Brian Beattie <beattie@aracnet.com>, "Matthew N. Dodd" <winter@jurai.net>, Chuck Robey <chuckr@mat.net>, Wayne Cuddy <wayne@crb-web.com>, FreeBSD Hackers List <freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: what is devfs? Message-ID: <19990921000009.54622@hydrogen.fircrest.net> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9909202321540.22714-100000@home.elischer.org>; from Julian Elischer on Mon, Sep 20, 1999 at 11:28:11PM -0700 References: <19990920231629.26284@hydrogen.fircrest.net> <Pine.BSF.4.05.9909202321540.22714-100000@home.elischer.org>
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Julian Elischer scribbled this message on Sep 20: > > POLA! if we have persisten permissions and ownership, and we allow > > renaming, then renaming should also be persistant... after the mount > > again, da0c either no longer exists, or is no longer ttyd1... which > > neither is an acceptable solution... > > I think at this stage you've gone overboard.. > > part of the definition of devfs is that a device shows up on mount > with it's canonical name.. On each new mount every time, even if you've > mounted it in 10 different places. I didn't flat out state it, but I think persistant should NOT be done via an underlying node, but via a daemon... and then this would be a moot point as you'd just configure the daemon to do what you need to do, or run an /etc/rc.devfs script which sets the permission properly.. a) all existing device nodes show up b) all nodes are gives root:wheel 0600 permissions at start that is all I'm looking for... anything else is stupid or complex... hell, a daemon could be something as simple as a script that constantly sees if a device has root:wheel 0600 permissions, and set them correctly if they don't... persitance is stupid UNLESS it is complete persitance... and you've said that complete persitance is to complex, so lets go w/ no persitance, and default secure premissions... -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 408 975 9651 Cu Networking "The soul contains in itself the event that shall presently befall it. The event is only the actualizing of its thought." -- Ralph Waldo Emerson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
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