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Date:      Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:26:49 -0500
From:      Randall Hopper <aa8vb@ipass.net>
To:        Alex <ak@freenet.co.uk>, Amancio Hasty <hasty@rah.star-gate.com>
Cc:        Russell Cattelan <cattelan@thebarn.com>, Seigo Tanimura <tanimura@r.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp>, freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Creative seems to open up SB Live
Message-ID:  <19991104182649.A2726@ipass.net>
In-Reply-To: <38210B69.E8782D9F@freenet.co.uk>
References:  <199911040222.LAA70346@rina.r.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp> <199911040644.WAA43215@rah.star-gate.com> <3820C882.1D2F9709@thebarn.com> <199911040122.KAA60961@rina.r.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp> <19991103205203.A2472@ipass.net> <3820ECA7.2B9C11E1@thebarn.com> <38210B69.E8782D9F@freenet.co.uk>

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Alex:
 |Russell Cattelan wrote:
 |> Randall Hopper wrote:
 |> > It's possible it could be accommodated as GPL.  The Linux AWE drivers I
 |> > integrated into the kernel tree are GPL, for example:
 |> >     /usr/src/sys/gnu/i386/isa/sound/
 |> 
 |> This would be a nice option...  at least initially. 
 |
 |No!  No GPLd crap in the kernel.

Hey!  Take it down a notch Amancio.  That is, unless you're volunteering to
do the work.  You should try the KDE group's philosophy:
      
     When making a suggestion, change 'we should...' to 'I will...'

Yeah, I know.  You're busy right now.  So am I.  However, I wouldn't
presume to dictate how others spend their free time hacking driver code.
Think "suggestion" and everyone will be alot more receptive (and willing to
help).

 |There doesn't seem to be anything special or particularly complex about
 |SBLive that it can't be ported to FreeBSD.
...
 |Now we need someone to plug the new driver to one of the existing sound
 |driver models .
 |
 |I respectfully suggest that one of the young hackers to buckle down and
 |get to work be that just copying the existing SB Live or getting the docs
 |for the chipsets and use the GPL as a model.

AFAIK "port" is not an option, "re-engineer" is (from your no-GPL
perspective at least).  We want to keep this kosher.

With this headache in mind, that's why I suggested the GPL branch.  

Randall


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