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Date:      Mon, 15 Nov 1999 14:27:10 -0800 (PST)
From:      Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>
To:        Sean Eric Fagan <sef@kithrup.com>
Cc:        current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: PATCH for testing
Message-ID:  <199911152227.OAA45627@apollo.backplane.com>
References:   <199911152213.OAA20176@kithrup.com>

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:I don't think this should go in at all.
:
:It increases the size of the proc structure (thereby affecting _all_
:processes) gratuitously.  While I'm generally in favour of having the process
:arguments kept around, the "BSD way" has been to only examine them in user
:memory, despite that being unreliable and just annoying.
:
:The benefits are fairly minimal, and I don't believe justify the cost
:incurred.

    If it weren't for 'setproctitle()' I would agree with you.  But since
    setproctitle() exists we have a serious mess on our hands.  Personally I
    would prefer to see it cleaned up as follows:

	* place a copy of the initial arguments in the struct proc as well
	  as the uarea.
	* have the sysctl that limits the buffer size within the struct proc
	  to something reasonable (e.g. 1K) but don't bother making 'ps' 
	  fall back to the uarea.  Allow a value of '0' indicating 'unlimited'
	  (i.e. really means ARGS_MAX).
	* setproctitle() messes with the struct proc only
	* ps, top, et all use the struct proc only

    And, also, we need to get rid of the 'e' option to ps entirely.  It's a
    major security hole.

					-Matt
					Matthew Dillon 
					<dillon@backplane.com>


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