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Date:      Sun, 5 Mar 2000 16:57:43 +0000
From:      Mark Ovens <mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org>
To:        cjclark@home.com
Cc:        Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>, chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Great American Gas Out
Message-ID:  <20000305165743.D388@parish>
In-Reply-To: <20000305113201.A62310@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com>; from cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com on Sun, Mar 05, 2000 at 11:32:02AM -0500
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On Sun, Mar 05, 2000 at 11:32:02AM -0500, Crist J. Clark wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 05, 2000 at 11:42:11AM +0000, Mark Ovens wrote:
> > On Sat, Mar 04, 2000 at 01:39:32PM -0700, Brett Glass wrote:
> > > At 10:52 AM 3/4/2000 , Nate Williams wrote:
> > > 
> > > >The reason gas is so expensive is CA is because a couple of refineries
> > > >blew up last year, and due to the monopolies shared by the gas
> > > >companies, there was no-one lef to take up the 'demand' when they quit
> > > >producing.
> > > >
> > > >Demand stayed the same, production was reduced, price goes up.  Simple
> > > >economics..
> > > 
> > > Exactly. And the monopoly is government-granted because it mandated the
> > > special gas. California also has special and arbitrary requirements for
> > > milk which keep out-of-state vendors out and raise the price.
> > > 
> > 
> > Californians run their cars on milk? ;-)
> 
> Water-burning engines. I _hope_ we don't go there.
> 
> But it did occur to me (and I wasn't going to say anything) to wonder
> from where CA would import milk. I mean Wisconsin and New York are
> long truck rides. (Think of all of the gas. ;) I doubt Nevada and
> Arizona have big dairy potential. Maybe Oregon and Washington?
> 
> Of course, agriculture has some of the most bizarre economic policy of
> them all, the classic being the gov't paying a producer _not_ to
> produce. 

Ah, so you have that over there as well? I thought it was just the
EU that wasted money that way.

BTW, in this thread there has been mush talk of SUV's. What does
SUV stand for? (I can work out that the "V" is vehicle:))

> -- 
> Crist J. Clark                           cjclark@home.com
> 
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