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Date:      Thu, 1 Jun 2000 17:21:30 +0200
From:      Stefan `Sec` Zehl <sec@42.org>
To:        Andre Albsmeier <andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de>
Cc:        freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: bin/18900: patch to add colorizing feature to /bin/ls
Message-ID:  <20000601172130.A24898@matrix.42.org>
In-Reply-To: <20000601170719.A18925@curry.mchp.siemens.de>; from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de on Thu, Jun 01, 2000 at 05:07:19PM %2B0200
References:  <20000531095153.A80830@curry.mchp.siemens.de> <200005311200.IAA29719@lakes.dignus.com> <20000531140859.A44791@mithrandr.moria.org> <20000601142524.A19841@matrix.42.org> <20000601161114.A18501@curry.mchp.siemens.de> <20000601165544.A24155@matrix.42.org> <20000601170719.A18925@curry.mchp.siemens.de>

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On Thu, Jun 01, 2000 at 05:07:19PM +0200, Andre Albsmeier wrote:
> On Thu, 01-Jun-2000 at 16:55:44 +0200, Stefan `Sec` Zehl wrote:
> > less is a port, for this exact reason.
> 
> And it will be in the base system replacing more.

If I had heaed of that, I'd have objected to that. Even more since the
current less is broken because it insists on using bold, without an
option to turn it off.

> > > No, there won't be gained new information. It never was the goal of
> > > a colorised ls to gain new information.
> > Ok. So make it a port :)
> It is a port.

So keep it a port.

> > So update the port an be done with it.
> I can't. Someone else has to do it.

Why? Submit an updated port.

> > And now everyone who canges ls has to wantch out not to break your
> > precious color patch.
> 
> The precious color patch (which is stolen form the port indeed) needs
> to be applied once. The port has to be updated every time /bin/ls
> changes.

That's not the full true story. If the patch is applied everyone who
changes ls has to check to not break the color part. You're basically
offloading the work to someone else.

> > And again: There are many programs I use every day, starting with my
> > shell (zsh). But I still don't go running around and claim it should be
> > imported in base, just because I can't live without it.
> 
> That's ok.

So don't inflict your 'essentials' onto the rest of the world.

CU,
    Sec
-- 
          Hiroshima '45    Tsjernobyl '86   Windows '95


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