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Date:      Fri, 16 Jun 2000 21:17:07 +0100
From:      Brian Somers <brian@Awfulhak.org>
To:        Bill Fumerola <billf@chc-chimes.com>
Cc:        Brian Somers <brian@Awfulhak.org>, Garrett Wollman <wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>, "Daniel C. Sobral" <dcs@newsguy.com>, Alfred Perlstein <alfred@FreeBSD.ORG>, Nate Williams <nate@yogotech.com>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@hak.lan.awfulhak.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/kern uipc_socket.c uipc_socket2.c src/sys/sys socket.h 
Message-ID:  <200006162017.VAA02121@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org>
In-Reply-To: Message from Bill Fumerola <billf@chc-chimes.com>  of "Fri, 16 Jun 2000 14:17:32 EDT." <20000616141732.E8523@jade.chc-chimes.com> 

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> On Fri, Jun 16, 2000 at 06:37:48PM +0100, Brian Somers wrote:
> 
> > > > If natd had been written in the kernel (which no-one would have objected
> > > > to), you would have the exact above scenario.
> > > 
> > > I would have, strenuously.
> > 
> > Is there a big difference between natd and ipnat ?  Or do you object 
> > to ipnat ?
> 
> I was going to mention that, but I don't use ipfilter and hadn't looked
> to see how application specific ipnat gets.

I'm no expert with ipnat either - it may be ``cleaner'' than libalias 
in that it may avoid protocol-specific knowledge (I think you need a 
plug-in to do active ftp properly for example, and all the other 
protocols have to be done via a proxy), but then you can argue that 
NATing is a disgusting hak anyway....

> -- 
> Bill Fumerola - Network Architect / Computer Horizons Corp - CVM
> e-mail: billf@chc-chimes.com / billf@FreeBSD.org

-- 
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      <http://www.Awfulhak.org>;                   <brian@[uk.]OpenBSD.org>
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