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Date:      Tue, 27 Jun 2000 20:21:18 -0700
From:      Mike Smith <msmith@freebsd.org>
To:        Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: microuptime() going backwards 
Message-ID:  <200006280321.UAA00490@mass.osd.bsdi.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:03:49 %2B1000." <20000627120348.B5328@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> 

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> [Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html]
> 
> On Monday, 26 June 2000 at 22:56:29 +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote:
> > I just got tons and tons of
> >
> > Jun 26 22:06:33 freebie /kernel: microuptime() went backwards (18951.226366 -> 1 8951,199762)
> > Jun 26 22:06:34 freebie /kernel: microuptime() went backwards (18951.226366 -> 1 8951,210275)
> >
> > (approx 10Mb worth of them). This was during a mpeg video playing operation.
> >
> > FreeBSD freebie.wbnet 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #2: Sat Jun 24 16:52:41 CEST 2000     root@freebie.wbnet:/usr/src/sys/compile/FREEBIE  i386
> >
> > System is an Athlon 700Mc, dmesg.boot available if required.
> >
> > Any idea what is causing this?
> 
> Yup.  Is this an Epox board?  I think it's a bug in the APM code.  It
> even bites if APM is disabled.  Try completely removing APM from the
> kernel.

I explained this to you at Usenix, actually.  It has nothing to do with 
APM, it has to do with the selection of clocks available with/without APM 
compiled into the kernel - there is probably either a bug in the TSC 
hardware on this CPU, or (more likely) a bug in the timecounter code 
(since people see this on !APM systems already).

-- 
\\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\  Mike Smith
\\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself,  \\  msmith@freebsd.org
\\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime.             \\  msmith@cdrom.com




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