Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 13:11:05 +0100 From: Nik Clayton <nik@freebsd.org> To: Warner Losh <imp@village.org> Cc: Nik Clayton <nik@FreeBSD.org>, "David E. O'Brien" <obrien@FreeBSD.org>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/boot/common boot.c module.c src/sys/boot/forth loader.conf src/sys/conf Makefile.alpha Makefile.i386 Makefile.pc98 kmod.mk src/share/mk bsd.own.mk Message-ID: <20000907131105.A811@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> In-Reply-To: <200009061729.LAA69925@harmony.village.org>; from imp@village.org on Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 11:29:30AM -0600 References: <20000906094918.A5184@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <200009052237.PAA73730@freefall.freebsd.org> <20000906094918.A5184@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <200009061729.LAA69925@harmony.village.org>
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On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 11:29:30AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > : Where was this change discussed? I'm on -arch, -current, and -hackers, > : and don't recall seeing anything like this come by. > > I recall a meeting at FreeBSDCon 1999 where David O'Brien, myself, > Greg Lehey, Mike Smith and a couple other people talked about this as > the long term design goal. Fine. Now why is this a long term design goal? What benefits does it provide, why are we diverging from the other BSDs, and how does this set us apart as new, exciting, and innovative, for the Slashdot story. . . I'm hearing an increasing number of comments from people that a lot of the FreeBSD development work is done behind closed doors. Not only does this make it difficult for people to contribute to the initial work, it also makes it difficult for people to carry on the work. For example, the libh stuff, and the work that's being done in IA-64. I appreciate that writing up design documents (or even retyping out a few notes from the back of an envelope) isn't the most glamorous of tasks, and that being a volunteer project there's no 'force' that can be applied to people to do this. However, as we go forward, with a newly composed core team, and, presumably, someone taking on the responsibility for the architectural direction that FreeBSD moves in, I'd like to see this issue get a higher profile. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message
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