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Date:      Sun, 17 Sep 2000 08:01:52 -0700
From:      Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group <Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca>
To:        Jordan Hubbard <jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com>
Cc:        Garance A Drosihn <drosih@rpi.edu>, Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.ORG>, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: I'll be rolling a 4.1.1 release on September 25th 
Message-ID:  <200009171502.e8HF2fp47484@cwsys.cwsent.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 17 Sep 2000 02:41:46 PDT." <8077.969183706@winston.osd.bsdi.com> 

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In message <8077.969183706@winston.osd.bsdi.com>, Jordan Hubbard writes:
> > You left out the exact steps on how someone who does not have
> > commit privs is supposed to "get their patch applied".  I, for
> > one, have found that process frustrating.
> 
> If I may try and distill this entire discussion down to a single
> concrete "action item" which serves everyone's purposes without
> attempting to negate reality in any way:
> 
> What we appear to need here is a "How to get something into FreeBSD"
> FAQ or tutorial which essentially codifies the instructions on how and
> where to bother developers and how, this being the volunteer world of
> free software and all, you also run the risk of never getting your
> patch in at all.  That way nobody would have any unrealistic
> expectations of the process or feel that insult to injury had just
> been added when told to do something they may have already done.  In
> significant cases, it might even net us some more committers.

That would be nice, but in my experience I've just submitted patches to 
gnats and eventually someone would notice.  I don't have to bug anyone. 
 The PR's get implemented eventually.  Even as a maintainer for a few 
ports who doesn't have commit privileges, I don't find the process 
frustrating.  I guess I don't see what all the fuss is about.


Regards,                       Phone:  (250)387-8437
Cy Schubert                      Fax:  (250)387-5766
Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team   Internet:  Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca
Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA
Province of BC





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