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Date:      Thu, 9 Nov 2000 11:22:35 -0800 (PST)
From:      Matt Dillon <dillon@earth.backplane.com>
To:        Warner Losh <imp@village.org>
Cc:        Peter Wemm <peter@netplex.com.au>, arch@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: The shared /bin and /sbin bikeshed 
Message-ID:  <200011091922.eA9JMZR10926@earth.backplane.com>
References:  <200011091909.eA9J9wM10639@earth.backplane.com>  <200011091223.eA9CNQW26294@mobile.wemm.org>  <200011091915.MAA43115@harmony.village.org>

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:In message <200011091909.eA9J9wM10639@earth.backplane.com> Matt Dillon writes:
::     I'd recommend against the linux /lib + /usr/lib model, it's a big
::     mess.  I don't see much of a point in cutting the size of /bin and
::     /sbin down, they are already fairly small (3.8M and 10M) and it
::     isn't as though we need the disk space!  The static nature of
::     /bin and /sbin have saved me more times then I can remember.  I also
::     have unfond memories of blowing /lib up under linux and not being
::     able to do anything.
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:In the general case I'd agree with you.  Disk is cheap.  And almost
:all system have split / and /usr.
:
:In the small, embedded world, however, reducing the 4.1M and 12M to
:600k and 1200k respectively is a huge win.  We at Timing Solutions run
:FreeBSD in 16M or 32M or 64M parts where an extra 6M is a huge win.
:Especially on the 16M part.  The minimal system that I had went from
:14.7M to 7.9M which pushed the 16M part from being useless to being
:useful (we have about 6M of binaries and sundries that go onto these
:systems).
:
:I also plan on putting together a small 16M X terminal for the iopener
:with this if all goes well.
:
:Warner

    Ah, for flash booting turnkey solutions... I see the benefit!  But
    wouldn't something like /stand's all-in-one binary with hardlinks
    for most common boot/recovery options be an even better solution?

					    -Matt


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