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Date:      Fri, 9 Feb 2001 14:56:02 -0800
From:      Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net>
To:        Borja Marcos <borjamar@sarenet.es>
Cc:        freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: nfsd support for tcp_wrapper -> General RPC solution
Message-ID:  <20010209145602.T26076@fw.wintelcom.net>
In-Reply-To: <3A8474A6.D5D0DCE9@sarenet.es>; from borjamar@sarenet.es on Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 11:52:22PM %2B0100
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* Borja Marcos <borjamar@sarenet.es> [010209 14:52] wrote:
> Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> 
> > This is a really flawed idea.
> 
> 	Humm. Yours is a flawed reading of my message? ;-)

You're right. :)

> > 
> > In fact because afaik NFS always uses a well known port, you really
> > don't need portmap to map it, you just need to use the port,
> > portmapper for NFS is just a formality.
> > 
> > Ok, with that out of the window, we _could_ consider mucking userland
> > mountd to use tcpwrappers to graft an ACL to what's in /etc/exports.
> > This is also a bad idea, one can just brute force the NFS
> > cookie/filehandle required to gain access, then contact the NFS
> > port.
> > 
> > The solution is to use a firewall.
> 
> 	Yes, and what about having portmap set the right firewall
> rules to protect RPC services? Whenever a service registers itself
> to portmap, it puts firewall rules to block access to the port.
> That is what I am proposing!
> 
> 	Yes, NFS uses a fixed port, but not other RPC services.

Well, using a firewall would work fine, but relying on obfuscation
by just hiding portmap won't.  That's where I misread what you said,
I thought you only meant to firewall portmap, but if you can add hooks
to portmap to run ipfw rules... that would interesting. :)

-- 
-Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org]
"I have the heart of a child; I keep it in a jar on my desk."


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