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Date:      Fri, 13 Apr 2001 17:54:02 +0000 (GMT)
From:      Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>
To:        kris@catonic.net (Kris Kirby)
Cc:        brett@lariat.org (Brett Glass), chip@wiegand.org (Chip Wiegand), chat@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Chat)
Subject:   Re: Just an observation - MUA's seen in the lists
Message-ID:  <200104131754.KAA14193@usr02.primenet.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0104131309160.90249-100000@spaz.huntsvilleal.com> from "Kris Kirby" at Apr 13, 2001 01:10:51 PM

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> > It's OK to use an unreliable machine for your MUA, just so long as
> > your mission-critical data is backed up on a machine running a
> > RELIABLE operating system!
> 
> Hey! Wait a minute! Email *is* mission-critical. When was the last time
> you went without email for a few days? :-)

It is OK to have the MUA on a machine that is unreliable, so
long as the email itself is stored and sent via a reliable
machine.

In other words, all most people run on their PC's is User
Interface.

If instead of looking at the MUA, you were to look at the
first (historically: last in order) "Received:" timestamp
line, you would get a better picture of what people are
using as their mail server.

The MUA numbers should come as no surprise to anyone:

o	For years, Jordan has been stating that FreeBSD is a
	server OS, not a desktop

o	Anytime some wants to make FreeBSD more suitable for
	desktop use, everyone jumps down their throat, and
	automatically (and incorrectly) assumes that this
	would make FreeBSD less useful as a server.

o	FreeBSD has not actively pursued desktop software:

	o	FreeBSD has not lobbied Microsoft to port
		its "Office" suite of software

	o	FreeBSD steadfastly refuses to choose a
		single official GUI and toolkit (this is
		one of the reasons Microsoft states they
		have not ported Office to Linux)

	o	FreeBSD application training is not really
		transportable from one application to another,
		because there is no style guide, and the tools
		available could not enforce style guide
		conformance, even if there were one

	o	FreeBSD does not have a standard install
		software system that is as sophisticated as
		InstallShield, for use by commercial
		software installation

	o	FreeBSD has a number of "data interfaces"
		which, unlike procedural interfaces, are
		bound to vary between releases, thus limiting
		the total available market for any commercial
		software (see anything linked to libkva as an
		example of this).

	o	FreeBSD does not have a standard method of
		installing and uninstalling startup and
		shutdown procedures for third party layered
		software that would allow such software to
		replace FreeBSD default components (e.g to
		replace Sendmail with MS Exchange for FreeBSD).

	o	FreeBSD binaries only run on FreeBSD, and
		the FreeBSD ABI is significantly less popular
		than the Linux ABI, since the Linux people have
		actively pursued making Linux binaries run
		everywhere (this would be a big point in Linux'
		favor, if their ABI weren't so fungible)

o	FreeBSD management and operation is far from user
	friendly; thus a Microsoft product would be as hard
	to manage as any other package, well below Microsoft's
	usability standards:

	o	Fixing this requires a "regitry" style system

o	FreeBSD's developement environment is nowhere near as
	usable for shallow programmers of desktop software as,
	for example, Visual BASIC or Visual C++.

Really, FreeBSD is unsuitable for use as an MUA supporting
desktop machine, unless your users are much more sophisticated
than average.

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