Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 09:03:01 +0930 From: Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com> To: Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm@toybox.placo.com> Cc: David Johnson <djohnson@acuson.com>, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [dn-core] Re: Perens' "Free Software Leaders Stand Together" Message-ID: <20010520090301.L64759@wantadilla.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <000101c0e029$dabbde00$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>; from tedm@toybox.placo.com on Fri, May 18, 2001 at 11:06:33PM -0700 References: <3B055F97.CEBDC854@acuson.com> <000101c0e029$dabbde00$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>
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[Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] On Friday, 18 May 2001 at 23:06:33 -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > On Friday, May 18, 2001 10:45 AM, David Johnson wrote: >> >> Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> >>> Basically, what has happened is that Bruce and his friends >>> (the signatories on the list of that article are a who's >>> who of them) have literally made millions of dollars out of >>> in effect convincing a bunch of developers to GPL their >>> code, then those Open Source people have set themselves up >>> in the only point in the GPL code distributon scheme (the >>> nexus points) where it's possible to make a lot of money. >> >> Many of those signatories most assuredly are *not* GPL fanatics. Tim >> O'Reilly surely isn't. > > Um, I happen to know that Tim O'Reilly has been approached with SEVERAL > FreeBSD book projects, including my own, and has turned them all > down. Well, it's not Tim O'Reilly any more, it's his editors. A bit of background: Some years ago O'Reilly printed the complete 4.4BSD Lite documentation in five volumes. It was a complete flop. As a result, they've been very wary about bringing out another book on BSD. > Well, mine is successful (at least, I'm told it is although I have yet > to see sales figures) and how smart is it for a book publisher to turn > down a successful book project and let a competitor take it? That was a > political decision, not a professional one. > > Ask Greg if he's had any luck shopping HIS book to O'Reilly. Why don't you? No, they didn't want "The Complete FreeBSD". Instead I'm writing a book for them with the tentative title "Advanced BSD System Administration". > Not that I have any evidence that he ever has done so, but I'd be > surprised if he hasn't. I wouldn't think that Wind River is going > to want to be in the book publishing business, and it's a natural > and obvious move for The Complete FreeBSD to go to O'Reilly. > Certainly it would enhance the book, it would enhance O'Reilly, and > it would help BSD penetration. Wind River has stated that they do want to be in the publishing business, though I agree that's a bit surprising. > [snipped; nothing here that we haven't already discussed] Greg -- When replying to this message, please take care not to mutilate the original text. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/email.html Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message
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