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Date:      Sat, 7 Jul 2001 13:24:58 +0930
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Antony T Curtis <antony@abacus.co.uk>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: JFS (was: The FreeBSD core team needs your help)
Message-ID:  <20010707132458.D75626@wantadilla.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <3B459395.120DFE27@abacus.co.uk>; from antony@abacus.co.uk on Fri, Jul 06, 2001 at 11:31:49AM %2B0100
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On Friday,  6 July 2001 at 11:31:49 +0100, Antony T Curtis wrote:
> Greg Lehey wrote:
>>
>> On Wednesday,  4 July 2001 at 11:38:08 +0100, Antony T Curtis wrote:
>>> Greg Lehey wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, 12 June 2001 at 19:22:45 +0200, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:09:58 +0100
>>>>> Josef Karthauser <joe@tao.org.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 08:32:23AM -0700, Eric Parusel wrote:
>>>>>>>>> A journalling FS for those people who just hate waiting for a
>>>>>>> couple
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> TB of slow disks to fsck?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Does ReiserFS work with FreeBSD?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From what I've read, XFS is quite good as well....  (Whether or no=
t it
>>>>>>> could ever work with *BSD, I don't know)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apparently XFS would run better on FreeBSD than on Linux, from what
>>>>>
>>>>>       Whatever happened to the open source release of JFS, or is JFS =
really
>>>>> bad ?
>>>>
>>>> The open source version of JFS was based on OS/2, not AIX.  It's not
>>>> an overly good fit to UNIX.
>>>
>>> That was only because AIX's JFS implementation was so closely bound into
>>> their kernel that there was no easy way to "port" it out of it. Also,
>>> AFAIK, it was written in a mesh of different languages too, including
>>> POWER architecture assembly.
>>>
>>> The OS/2 version was the first clean implementation to plug into OS/2's
>>> IFS driver model - and being written in C, it is much more 'portable'.
>>> (AFAIK, it was supposed to be able to be recompiled for OS/2 for CHRP
>>> PowerPC)
>>
>> Since writing that (quite some time ago, IIRC) I have joined IBM and
>> am now working with the people who did the JFS port.  They
>> substantially confirm your viewpoint, with the added information that
>> the "old" JFS, now called JFS 1, is being phased out under AIX, and
>> the "new" AIX JFS, JFS 2, is based on the same code base as the OS/2
>> port.  With that background, IBM's approach makes a lot more sense.
>> It's a pity that this issue wasn't clarified earlier.
>
> Is it JFS2 in AIX5L

Yes, that's the one.

> or will there be a backport to AIX4.3?

I haven't heard of that.  That doesn't mean it won't happen.

>>> All said, I would be interested in a JFS port for FreeBSD ....
>>
>> I'm going to be doing a lot of work on JFS in the next few months.  I
>> don't think I'll port it to FreeBSD, but I'll be available for
>> questions, and I'll have a better understanding.
>
> Sounds great... I wonder if they'd accept back in diffs.

I think so.

>>>> =01unix soit qui mal y pense
>>
>> You're aware that the original word of this phrase, "hon(n)i", means
>> "ashamed"?
>
> I didn't have a clue... My sig has a different fortune for every email.

Ah.  What's the ^A character for?

Greg
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