Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 19:07:25 -0700 From: Murray Stokely <murray@osd.bsdi.com> To: Linh Pham <lplist@closedsrc.org> Cc: Chern Lee <chern@meow.osd.bsdi.com>, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ASCII Diagram Replacements Message-ID: <20010711190725.B49668@meow.osd.bsdi.com> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.33.0107111701110.69804-100000@q.closedsrc.org>; from lplist@closedsrc.org on Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 05:05:01PM -0700 References: <Pine.BSF.4.31.0107111704020.52052-100000@meow.osd.bsdi.com> <Pine.BSF.4.33.0107111701110.69804-100000@q.closedsrc.org>
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On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 05:05:01PM -0700, Linh Pham wrote: > There is also Kivio that provides a Visio clone for the KDE > window environment. I think it's development (or at least 'maintained') > by theKompany.com, and seems be okay. I don't know if it's to the > caliber of Dia (since I haven't used Dia... nor have I used Kivio for a > while). The URL to the Kivio site is: > > http://www.thekompany.com/products/kivio/index.php3?dhtml_ok=1 This appears to be a problem : "Please note: While Kivio is a GPL application, all the stencil sets provided by theKompany.com, including the basic stencil shapes bundled with Kivio are copywritten and owned by theKompany.com. All information and images provided are copywritten and cannot be used in part or in whole for any other work, including free or commercial stencil sets. You are free to create your own stencil sets from your own work." If this can be resolved then great, we've got another tool that can be used. I think the general question that needs to be answered is how important is consistency? Adam Stanislav made some nice looking PostScript diagrams by hand. I actually prefer the Dia output, but his were still very good. The main problem I have with his images is that we now must rely on him to hand craft every PostScript file in the handbook if we want any kind of consistency. A far better option would be if we can all agree that we very much value consistency. If that is the case then it will mean standardizing on an open-source application (or set of applications, or simply a stencil-set to be used with any application) to draw network diagrams for our documentation. From what I've seen Dia and Kivio are sufficiently similar that we shouldn't have to choose between one or the other. We just must choose to standardize on those applications (and this means making new images to replaces the excellent ones that Adam made for the ISDN section) and not to allow any random .eps file that doesn't bear a strong resemblance to our existing diagrams. What does everyone else think about this? Adam? - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message
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