Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 23:34:47 -0400 From: "G. Adam Stanislav" <whizkid@eeoth.pair.com> To: Murray Stokely <murray@osd.bsdi.com> Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ASCII Diagram Replacements Message-ID: <20010711233447.A44030@eeoth.pair.com> In-Reply-To: <20010711190725.B49668@meow.osd.bsdi.com>; from murray@osd.bsdi.com on Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 07:07:25PM -0700 References: <Pine.BSF.4.31.0107111704020.52052-100000@meow.osd.bsdi.com> <Pine.BSF.4.33.0107111701110.69804-100000@q.closedsrc.org> <20010711190725.B49668@meow.osd.bsdi.com>
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On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 07:07:25PM -0700, Murray Stokely wrote: > "Please note: While Kivio is a GPL application, all the stencil sets > provided by theKompany.com, including the basic stencil shapes > bundled with Kivio are copywritten and owned by theKompany.com. All > information and images provided are copywritten and cannot be used > in part or in whole for any other work, including free or > commercial stencil sets. You are free to create your own stencil > sets from your own work." Heh, just because they were copywritten by them does not necessarily mean they were copyrighted by them. Copyright (a legal right) has nothing to do with copywriting (writing an advertisement). > If this can be resolved then great, we've got another tool that can be > used. I think the general question that needs to be answered is how > important is consistency? Adam Stanislav made some nice looking > PostScript diagrams by hand. I actually prefer the Dia output, but > his were still very good. The main problem I have with his images is > that we now must rely on him to hand craft every PostScript file in > the handbook if we want any kind of consistency. I liked the Dia images as well. I will certainly not be offended if you replace my drawings with Dia drawings (except in the section I both wrote and illustrated). It certainly would be better to have a standardized application: I may not always be around, plus it is good if the author of the text can create any drawing he wants even if he does not necessarily speak PostScript. For all it's worth, I am glad I inspired the idea of having real illustrations at all. :) > A far better option would be if we can all agree that we very much > value consistency. If that is the case then it will mean > standardizing on an open-source application (or set of applications, > or simply a stencil-set to be used with any application) to draw > network diagrams for our documentation. From what I've seen Dia and > Kivio are sufficiently similar that we shouldn't have to choose > between one or the other. We just must choose to standardize on those > applications (and this means making new images to replaces the > excellent ones that Adam made for the ISDN section) and not to allow > any random .eps file that doesn't bear a strong resemblance to our > existing diagrams. The best thing would be to write our own application under BSD license. Unfortunately, I have never done any XWindow programming, though this may be a good reason to start, I suppose. :) Adam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message
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