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Date:      Tue, 17 Jul 2001 17:32:43 +0100
From:      j mckitrick <jcm@FreeBSD-uk.eu.org>
To:        Greg Smith <freebsd_mail@yahoo.com>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: init hangs leaving single user mode
Message-ID:  <20010717173243.A62087@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org>
In-Reply-To: <200107161048530220.00A2D199@smtp.mail.yahoo.com>; from freebsd_mail@yahoo.com on Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 10:48:53AM -0700
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On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 10:48:53AM -0700, Greg Smith wrote:
| Jonathon,
| 
| >| That I can believe.  pccardd and various drivers are not good at
| >| recycling resources.  Many things could be happening here, including
| >
| >But i have done this before with no problem.  It just started doing
| this a
| >few weeks ago.
| 
| Yes, but now you have two cards both trying to get resources after you
| bring it back up.  That is a BIG difference; although I must admit that
| it ought not to be.

The problem occurs when I removed ed from the kernel configuration as well.

| >| >Don't you need bpf with dhcp?
| >| 
| >| I don't use dhcp, but for the life of me I can't imagine why.  bpf
| is a
| >| hook in the networking logic which supports packet sniffing and
| >| promiscuous mode.
| >
| >I read a how-to on cable modems and dsl, and it suggested it there.
| You
| >must be thinking: but aren't you using an ethernet?  Yes, but I seem
| to
| >recall some unresolved link label when I leave it out.  I'll try it
| again.
| 
| Well, that is indeed possible.  Just because I can't imagine weird
| things doesn't mean you are not right :)
| 
| >| Now the $64,000 question (or is it the $1,000,000 now):  Why do you
| >| shutdown into single user mode?  
| >
| >To restart networking, like when I am testing my ethernet connection
| ;-)
| 
| Well, I think the lesson here is that shutdown -h now would be a better
| option.  Of course, you can also start and stop daemons, ifconfig
| down/up etc.  But FreeBSD boots rather quickly now, except maybe for
| your ata delay issues.

The ata delay is a pain, but unavoidable apparently.  I can't find any way
to remove it.  I just don't understand why this happens recently, but not
before.  If I ever changed firewall rules, or something similar, I could
shutdown then restart multi-mode.  Now it hangs when I try this.

| 
| Take care,
| 
| Greg
| 
| 
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jcm
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