Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 15:04:59 -0600 From: D J Hawkey Jr <hawkeyd@visi.com> To: Nik Clayton <nik@freebsd.org> Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tangent for discussion: FreeBSD performs worse that Linux Message-ID: <20011211150459.A8415@sheol.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <20011211191403.B82053@canyon.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@freebsd.org on Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 07:14:03PM %2B0000 References: <20011209100855.A22942@sheol.localdomain> <20011209084620.V14858-100000@coredump.scriptkiddie.org> <20011209111523.A23357@sheol.localdomain> <20011209175137.B13554@clan.nothing-going-on.org> <20011209121703.A23726@sheol.localdomain> <20011210080032.A4215@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20011210152414.A1367@sheol.localdomain> <20011211191403.B82053@canyon.nothing-going-on.org>
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On Dec 11, at 07:14 PM, Nik Clayton wrote:
>
> I meant that any effort you put in is better than none. For example, if
> you decide to start producing patches for 4.4 that bring in some
> features from -stable (e.g., delayed acks) that's far better than you
> not doing it at all.
As others have also said. Yup.
> Don't feel that because you can't do everything you want to do that you
> shouldn't do any of it. If you get the ball rolling, and become known
> as *the* place to go for extra patches, you'll find that other people
> start sending you additional patches to include.
Oh, no. I don't have a problem with starting small. I wasn't born 6'0",
after all.
I am rather hoping there's a bunch of packrats lurking in hacker@ that might
mail me their backports. It'd make a better initial impression.
I don't have any pretentions or aspirations of being "the place to go" for
backports. If it happens, it happens.
> Pretty soon we'll get bored of having people ask "Hey, why aren't these
> patches in RELENG_4_4" (or whatever) and we'll corral you in to becoming
> a committer so that you can make this an 'official' part of FreeBSD.
Only if I get BSD daemon badges for my machines, a BSD sweatshirt or cap,
and an "@freebsd.org" mail addy. :-)
> > > > So far, I've made three patchfiles that can be applied to 4.2REL and 4.3REL.
> > > > Not exactly the repertoire one would need to garner interest and momentum.
> > >
> > > It's a start. What's the URL?
> >
> > You're kidding, right? I only started thinking about doing this yesterday!
> > The patches are sitting right here, in $(HOME)/projects.
>
> OK. Well, if you put them up on a web site, we can link to them. If
> you can think of appropriate other places on the FreeBSD web site to
> mention them then we can do that too.
The page is half-built now. If freebsd.org wants to link to the page (or
any other BSD sites, for that matter) that's OK with me. Linking to the
individual patchfiles pro'lly isn't a good idea.
For those that're interested (and have the time), it's at
http://www.visi.com/~hawkeyd/freebsd-backports.html
for review/critique. It's only a WIP at this point; please don't do anything
to publicize it. I'll mail hackers@ again when it's done, for final review/
critique.
> N
Let the flaming begin!
Dave
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