Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 15:49:20 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com> To: Bruce Evans <bde@zeta.org.au> Cc: Mike Smith <msmith@FreeBSD.ORG>, Bernd Walter <ticso@cicely8.cicely.de>, Michal Mertl <mime@traveller.cz>, <arch@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: When to use atomic_ functions? (was: 64 bit counters) Message-ID: <200201012349.g01NnKA40071@apollo.backplane.com> References: <20020102075650.L11121-100000@gamplex.bde.org>
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:On Tue, 1 Jan 2002, Mike Smith wrote: : :> > MBs are not needed for the variable itself, but they are making this :> > family of functions very expensive. :> > It's not very wise to handle counters with atomic_ functions unless :> > the need to have MBs in them is not removed. :> :> It's imperative to use atomic operations for counters on SMP systems. : :Not true. Atomic operations for counters are not needed on SMP systems :in at least the following cases: :- if there is a lock that prevents other processes from accessing the : counter :- if the counters are per-CPU. See previous mail by someone named msmith. : :Bruce Well, I'm not sure how I got on the Cc list but I agree with Bruce on this one. An SMP-synchronized counter increment is a ridiculous waste of time. They should be per-cpu and then we don't care *how* wide the counters are. Having programs like netstat, or our sysctl mechanism, aggregate the count values is easy. -Matt Matthew Dillon <dillon@backplane.com> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message
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