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Date:      Mon, 28 Jan 2002 13:56:03 -0700
From:      Chad David <davidc@acns.ab.ca>
To:        Nate Williams <nate@yogotech.com>
Cc:        "M. Warner Losh" <imp@village.org>, ertr1013@student.uu.se, cjm2@earthling.net, charon@seektruth.org, dsyphers@uchicago.edu, stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Transmissions :) Was: Firewall config non-intuitiveness
Message-ID:  <20020128135603.G66369@colnta.acns.ab.ca>
In-Reply-To: <15445.45720.514136.887062@caddis.yogotech.com>; from nate@yogotech.com on Mon, Jan 28, 2002 at 01:20:40PM -0700
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On Mon, Jan 28, 2002 at 01:20:40PM -0700, Nate Williams wrote:
> > : If I enable the clutch in my car, my car moves (assuming it's in gear).
> > : If I disable it, the power is no longer going to the drive wheels.
> > 
> > That's not quite right, but it is a good analogy.  If you disable your
> > clutch, then you are going to have to shift without it and deal with
> > putting it into gear at stops.
> 
> Unfortunately, you can't do it w/out a clutch.  (At least, not without
> tearing your clutch/transmission to bits).

No true :).  While at a stop a clutch is a good idea, you can avoid
ware on a number of parts if you learn to shift without clutch while
moving.  On smaller four and five speed transmissions (or bikes)this is
actually quite easy... on 3 ton grain trucks and tractors its a little
more tricky.

> 
> > If you enable your clutch, then you
> > can use it to help in shifting.  This isn't quite the same as what you
> > said, and an analogous condition exists with the firewall rules.
> 
> "help in shifting"?  I'd call a clutch the most critical part of a
> transmission.  W/out a clutch, you don't have a transmission.

Perhaps, but in its purest form what do gears have to do with a
transmission?  Think torque converter or hydrostatic drive :).

And to think I gave up being a heavy duty mechanic to do this...
since its current ~ -20C outside I think I made the correct choice :).

-- 
Chad David        davidc@acns.ab.ca
www.FreeBSD.org   davidc@freebsd.org
ACNS Inc.         Calgary, Alberta Canada
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sterling per annum by the sale of their children, will be rid of the
charge of maintaining them after the first year. - Johnathan Swift

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