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Date:      Wed, 24 Apr 2002 08:16:51 -0400
From:      The Anarcat <anarcat@anarcat.dyndns.org>
To:        Mike Meyer <mwm-dated-1020057457.34fd37@mired.org>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: [resend] packaging base (was: /etc/defaults/rc.conf theory)
Message-ID:  <20020424121651.GA317@lenny.anarcat.dyndns.org>
In-Reply-To: <15558.16369.602750.415167@guru.mired.org>
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On Wed Apr 24, 2002 at 12:17:37AM -0500, Mike Meyer wrote:
> In <20020424050711.GC973@lenny.anarcat.dyndns.org>, The Anarcat <anarcat@=
anarcat.dyndns.org> typed:
> > On Tue Apr 23, 2002 at 11:07:18PM -0500, Mike Meyer wrote:
> > > In <20020424030937.GC323@lenny.anarcat.dyndns.org>, The Anarcat <anar=
cat@anarcat.dyndns.org> typed:
> > > > The main issues I see about packaging the base system is [1] how pl=
ists
> > > > are to be handled and [2] how configurations files are to be handle=
d.
> > > You missed the biggie: [3] how the base system install is handled.
> > The same way the rest of the system is. [3] =3D [1] + [2]
>=20
> No, it isn't. Ports don't have the requirement to fit on a single
> floppy.

The more we move towards packaging the whole system, the more this
distinction will be blurred, hence [3] =3D [1] + [2].

> > Also, I don't think it would be very complex to cat many files into a
> > single one on the filesystem prior to installing a package. Very
> > simple, I think.
>=20
> That one's not the problem. The problem is catting together many
> *floppies* to get a package prior to actually installing it. That's
> not quite so simple.

I could see a simple shell script deal with that. I think it is quite
simple.
=20
> > But guess what: libh won't get through if it's not a drop-in
> > replacement for sysinstall.
>=20
> What makes you say that?

FUD. Documentation is written for sysinstall and everyone's used to
it.

> > In other words, libh doesn't know about the ports collection or
> > /usr/src yet, and I don't think it's going to change soon.
>=20
> Yes, but it will change eventually.=20

I hope not. I prefer keeping the package management system seperate
from the source management system.

> And yes, it's going to require rewriting the package format to deal
> with the issues needed for working on the base system.

I don't think you have proved that point.

> Hopefully, it will also be compatible with the openpackages project.

Hopefully.

A.

--=20
=46rom the age of uniformity, from the age of solitude, from the age of
Big Brother, from the age of doublethink - greetings!

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