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Date:      Sun, 12 May 2002 14:44:05 +0300
From:      Ruslan Ermilov <ru@FreeBSD.org>
To:        "David O'Brien" <obrien@FreeBSD.org>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, Bruce Evans <bde@zeta.org.au>, Bruce Evans <bde@FreeBSD.org>, Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/share/mk bsd.lib.mk
Message-ID:  <20020512114405.GA96840@sunbay.com>
In-Reply-To: <20020512043319.C19218@dragon.nuxi.com>
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On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 04:33:19AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote:
> On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 10:05:21AM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> > NOLIB shouldn't exist at all.  It should be implied by the missing LIB=
=3D
> > assignment.  And of couse NOLIB (or missing LIB=3D variant of it) should
> > not imply NOMAN, etc.  Please pass your further bsd.lib.mk changes for
> > review through me.
>=20
> Why should NOLIB / lack of LIB=3D not imply NOMAN?  We need a knob that
> says -- this .a (and only .a; no .so, no _p.a) is built as an
> intermediate step of building a binary.  Such .a's by definition have no
> man pages.  This is a common occurrence in our tree, and a Makefile
> writer should not have to add 4 additional knobs to get the desired
> functionality.  Not to mention the use of some of the bsd.lib.mk knobs is
> not clear from their name, nor the CVS commit logs.
>=20
I think that NOLIB should be designated by the lack of LIB=3D, and NOMAN
(in the case of internal library) should as such be designated by the
lack of MAN=3D.  I don't see why we should force NOMAN in that case.

> If you are the owner of bsd.lib.mk to demand that I pass all submissions
> thru you, then you make the changes to remove NOMAN.  You don't like my
> design, so there is little I can do for you.
>=20
Sorry this sounded not quite polite from a non-native speaker.  What
I was actually trying to say is "could you please" because as you may
have noticed I'm currently doing quite extensive amount of work under
share/mk.

> IF we had an architureal board to arbitrate differing opinions based on
> technical merit.  Unfortunately we have no such body, nor anything even
> comes close to providing the needed gudience in w/in FreeBSD.
>=20
We have it and it's called arch@FreeBSD.org.


Cheers,
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Ruslan Ermilov		Sysadmin and DBA,
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