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Date:      Wed, 26 Jun 2002 15:39:19 -0700
From:      Dave <dave@mu.org>
To:        freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Wow
Message-ID:  <20020626223919.GA31673@elvis.mu.org>
In-Reply-To: <20020626202057.GA7152@zot.electricrain.com>
References:  <20020626121754.F8071@mail.seattleFenix.net> <200206261919.g5QJJLLI018466@cvs.openbsd.org> <20020626202057.GA7152@zot.electricrain.com>

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To whom it may concern on the list,

Shut the fuck up, you bunch of belligerent, whiney dorks.  No one gives a 
rat's ass if you get hacked.  Actually, I spoke too soon, someone must care, 
since *someone* already told you to fucking upgrade.  Someone call the 
goddam Guinness Book, we've assembled the largest group of crybabies in 
history.  And the absolutely stunning thing is that after I post this, the 
bitching will grow.  Hypocrisy > *

To upgrade or not to upgrade, that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of script kiddies,
Or to take arms against a sea of hostile dorks,
And by opposing end them? To reboot: to shutdown;
No more

-a little slice of reality

p.s. Chris, this was not a post directed at you in particular.

Chris Doherty (chris-freebsd@randomcamel.net) wrote:
> At some point, Theo de Raadt said: 
> > I've barely slept in a week.
> 
> get some rest.
> 
> > So many of you are being totally unreasonable people.
> 
> well.
> 
> "Upgrade now."
> 
> "What versions are vulnerable?"
> 
> "Upgrade now."
> 
> "*sigh* Okay, I'll upgrade my 40 production machines."
> 
> "Okay, the version in -stable is unaffected. Oh yeah, and even if you're
> running a vulnerable version, set 'ChallengeResponseAuthentication no' and
> you'll be fine."
> 
> people aren't being unreasonable. they just wasted a lot of time upgrading
> to a new version of software, when in reality probably 95% of cases are
> either not vulnerable or can be secured with a simple configuration file
> change (I made that number up, of course, but at least on this list it
> doesn't seem out of proportion).
> 
> for myself with my one machine, I'm just annoyed. if I had gone through
> this bullshit on 40 machines, when I could have just modified a config
> file, I'd be pissed, and rightfully so.
> 
> but, *shrug*. I'll not give such credence to vague warnings in the
> future--lesson learned.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> -------------------------------
> Chris Doherty
> chris [at] randomcamel.net
> 
> "I think," said Christopher Robin, "that we ought to eat
> all our provisions now, so we won't have so much to carry."
>                -- A. A. Milne
> -------------------------------
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