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Date:      Fri, 28 Jun 2002 20:35:26 +0200
From:      Robert Drehmel <robert@ferrari-electronic.de>
To:        Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>
Cc:        Mike Barcroft <mike@FreeBSD.ORG>, current@FreeBSD.ORG, robert@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: changing 'struct utmp'
Message-ID:  <20020628203526.A8390@alpha.develop.ferrari.net>
In-Reply-To: <4381.1025278687@critter.freebsd.dk>
References:  <20020628113454.B34516@espresso.q9media.com> <4381.1025278687@critter.freebsd.dk>

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On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 05:38:07PM +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> In message <20020628113454.B34516@espresso.q9media.com>, Mike Barcroft writes:
> >Robert Drehmel <robert@zoot.drehmel.com> writes:
> >> While trying to fix the bug described in a problem report about
> >> 'w -n', and finding out that it is somewhat broken*, I came to
> >> the conclusion that our 'struct utmp' is too limiting.
> >> 
> >> I would like to modernize it as follows:
> >> 
> >> #define	UT_USERSIZE		16
> >> #define	UT_LINESIZE		8
> >> #define	UT_HOSTSIZE		18	/* increase by two bytes */
> >
> >I think it might be a wise idea to make UT_HOSTSIZE much larger.
> >Currently, it isn't even large enough to hold an IPv6 address.
> 
> really guys, we need to do this right.
> 
> The entire "line-number from /etc/ttys is index into file" concept
> sucks.
> 
> Fixed sized records suck badly.

If people want a more sophisticated solution, I could also
create a database format using the 'struct uxtmp' like Garrance
and Mike suggested, but with dynamicly sized members, and the
possibility to include only specific members in the structure.
To access members in such a structure functions like
  void *utmpx_get_member(struct utmpx *, int which);
could be provided.

That format would be used for /var/run/utmp, /var/log/wtmp and
/var/log/lastlog.  It could be made configurable which members
to include in 'struct xutmp's stored in the last two.  Imagine
an administrator wanting to log only remote network addresses,
another one needs resolved complete host names - so why waste
space for both?

Just a thought..

> 
> Please, if you're going to do it, do it right.
> 
> -- 
> Poul-Henning Kamp       | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20
> phk@FreeBSD.ORG         | TCP/IP since RFC 956
> FreeBSD committer       | BSD since 4.3-tahoe    
> Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.

ciao,
-robert

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