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Date:      Wed, 10 Jul 2002 23:23:16 +0200 (MET DST)
From:      Helge Oldach <helge.oldach@atosorigin.com>
To:        mikej@trigger.net (Mike Jakubik)
Cc:        fred@condo.chico.ca.us, stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: sshd vs ports sshd
Message-ID:  <200207102123.XAA04329@galaxy.de.cp.philips.com>
In-Reply-To: <HPEHJFKBNEHFPAOFMEDDCEHLDNAA.mikej@trigger.net> from Mike Jakubik at "Jul 10, 2002 11:16:11 am"

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Mike Jakubik:
>In no way am I saying that curtail services like syslogd or inetd should be
>taken out. But things like openssh, sendmail, certain libs, and basically
>most software that is available and up to date via the ports.

No, it shouldn't. I want a full-function system with a decent MTA, a
decent secure login facility, a decent time synchronization facility, a
decent nameserver, and so on. I *don't* want a base system that isn't
good for anything but eating CPU.

This is not a question of getting the base system "pure" and to adhere
minimalization efforts with a slightly religious attitude, but to have
a base system that people can do something useful with. (Yes, I have
several servers that don't have a single port installed because the base
system just provides all I need.)

Note that I don't care too much about *which* basic server software is
included in the base system, however I admit that I have chosen FreeBSD
for the reason that it has all the well-known stuff of sendmail, ssh,
xntp and bind on board.

Helge

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