Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:25:02 +0200 From: Alexey Zelkin <phantom@FreeBSD.ORG> To: Greg Lewis <glewis@eyesbeyond.com> Cc: Nate Williams <nate@yogotech.com>, Mikhail Kruk <meshko@cs.brandeis.edu>, java@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: wake up call for Sun? Message-ID: <20021030182502.A52856@phantom.cris.net> In-Reply-To: <20021030151812.A30986@misty.eyesbeyond.com>; from glewis@eyesbeyond.com on Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 03:18:12PM %2B1030 References: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0210291835380.2712-100000@iole.cs.brandeis.edu> <20021030142457.A30528@misty.eyesbeyond.com> <15807.23103.607937.532250@emerger.yogotech.com> <20021030151812.A30986@misty.eyesbeyond.com>
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hi, On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 03:18:12PM +1030, Greg Lewis wrote: > On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 09:04:15PM -0700, Nate Williams wrote: > > > I read the same thing, but I wasn't quite sure what he was driving at. > > > As I recall the slide mentioned something about threading problems. > > > So, either they were using the Linux version and HotSpot was crashing > > > or they wanted to use the native version on an SMP box and use some sort > > > of kernel threading so it would use all of the processors. > > > > For scalability purposes, they would need 'native' FreeBSD threads. The > > linux thread stuff works, but doesn't scale more. > > True. I note that there is now a KSE based pthreads library in -CURRENT. > This will eventually become the target for the JDK, which will hopefully > address a lot of issues in this regard. Yep. It will help a lot, but... * Only after it get into usable shape (it's pretty expiremental now) * Only after signaling become working (not yet implmeneted) * Only after 5.x-RELEASE become real and stable release (not early than 6 months from now, per current estimates) * And last, assuming KSE stuff working as expected (looks promising and quite real) > > Plus, the person who was pushing the effort was a big PHP fan, so there > > was little liklihood Java would have been chosen. > > I'm actually a pretty big fan of PHP for web based stuff myself :). It > has several problems, but I find it very good for what it was designed > to do. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message
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