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Date:      Fri, 4 Apr 2003 23:24:11 +0300
From:      Ruslan Ermilov <ru@freebsd.org>
To:        Birk <ari@snafu.de>
Cc:        "stable@freebsd.org" <stable@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: outdated files after make world
Message-ID:  <20030404202411.GC82587@sunbay.com>
In-Reply-To: <01C2FAE8.1CA187E0@ari@snafu.de>
References:  <01C2FAE8.1CA187E0@ari@snafu.de>

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On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 08:23:52PM +0200, Birk wrote:
> > >   338 Mar  6  2002 /boot/loader.rc
> > >=20
> > This is only installed if it does not exist, so you
> > should update it manually when it changes.  This has
> > last changed in 1999.
>=20
> IMHO this violates POLA. If it is vital and has changed it=20
> should be reinstalled.
> It was just instinct that I haven't removed this file.
>=20
Yes, I agree too, I just never found a time to request
if it is safe to change.

> > >   858 Mar  6  2002 /usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/mach/_h2ph_pre.ph
> >=20
> > Perl install just uses the source dates.
>=20
> I forgot to mention that I check the ctime, not mtime.
> If the files were copied with the mtime preserved the ctime should=20
> have changed anyway.
>=20
> > >  5930 Mar  6  2002 /usr/include/values.h
> >=20
> > Headers are installed with -C option of install(1),
>=20
> | -C	Copy the file.  If the target file already exists and the files
> |	are the same, then don't change the modification time of the tar-
> |	get.
>=20
> This is ambiguos. Does that mean the file isn't copied at all, or=20
> is it copied with the mtime preserved (and thus changes the ctime)?
>=20
There used to be a bug.  It is fixed in 5.0-CURRENT:

: -C   Copy the file.  If the target file already exists and the files
:      are the same, then don't change the modification time of the tar-
:      get.  If the target's file flags and mode need not to be changed,
:      the target's inode change time is also unchanged.
       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


Cheers,
--=20
Ruslan Ermilov		Sysadmin and DBA,
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