Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 23:40:52 +0930 From: "Daniel O'Connor" <doconnor@gsoft.com.au> To: Stephen Hilton <nospam@hiltonbsd.com>, Jason Fesler <jfesler@gigo.com> Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Firewire on STABLE: Sane for drive-based backups? Message-ID: <200310132340.53053.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> In-Reply-To: <20031013023401.7eb10b1a.nospam@hiltonbsd.com> References: <20031011181109.J15184@vette.gigo.com> <20031013023401.7eb10b1a.nospam@hiltonbsd.com>
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<Hidetoshi Shimokawa CC'd> I left the original message in tact to help with debugging. On Monday 13 October 2003 17:04, Stephen Hilton wrote: > On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 18:11:54 -0700 (PDT) > > Jason Fesler <jfesler@gigo.com> wrote: > > I did not have much luck on digging through the archives. Does anyone > > have any sucess stories on using external firewire drives on the stable > > branch of freebsd? Does hot swap work? Can I mount, dd or ufsdump or > > newfs/rsync, then umount and unplug it cleanly? > > > > I'm considering my options for doing once-a-month backups, and tape just > > totally blows the budget. I'm currently using a second drive to produce > > snapshots, but that doens't leave me with any off-site backups without > > taking the system down to swap drives. > > I have been using a Buslink 1394 Firewire HD model #FW80 72E on 2 > 4-STABLE systems for backup. The Firewire ports are onbord on an > ASUS P4PE and an ASUS P3B-1394 motherboard. > > Mounting and unmounting works fine, I do have troubles with hot swapping > though. > > > On the ASUS P3B-1394 system > > FreeBSD 4.9-RC cvsup'd and built/installed today > > Snips from my dmesg.boot > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > fwohci0: <Texas Instruments TSB12LV22> mem > 0xcb000000-0xcb003fff,0xcb800000-0xcb8007ff irq 11 at device 6.0 on pci0 > fwohci0: OHCI version 1.0 (ROM=1) > fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channel is 4. > fwohci0: EUI64 00:e0:18:00:00:00:16:bd > fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 3 ports. > fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes. > firewire0: <IEEE1394(FireWire) bus> on fwohci0 > sbp0: <SBP2/SCSI over firewire> on firewire0 > fwohci0: Initiate bus reset > fwohci0: BUS reset > fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc1, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode > firewire0: 2 nodes, maxhop <= 1, cable IRM = 1 (me) > firewire0: bus manager 1 (me) > > sym0: <895> port 0xb000-0xb0ff mem > 0xc9800000-0xc9800fff,0xca000000-0xca0000ff irq 11 at device 10.0 on pci0 > sym0: Tekram NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-40, LVD, parity checking > firewire0: New S400 device ID:0030e001e000177c > Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0s2a > da2 at sbp0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > da2: <Oxford S OXFORD IDE Devic 0132> Fixed Simplified Direct Access SCSI-4 > device da2: 50.000MB/s transfers, Tagged Queueing Enabled > da2: 76319MB (156301488 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 9729C) > da0 at sym0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > da0: <IBM DDYS-T18350N S96H> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device > da0: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing > Enabled da0: 17501MB (35843670 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2231C) > da1 at sym0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 > da1: <SEAGATE ST39173LW 6246> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device > da1: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing > Enabled da1: 8683MB (17783240 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1106C) > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > SCSI stuff from my kernel config file > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > # using SCSI-IDE atapicam emulation for DVD/CDRW access. > device atapicam # emulate ATAPI devices as SCSI ditto via > CAM # needs CAM to be present (scbus & pass) > > # SCSI Controllers > device sym0 # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets) > device scbus0 at sym0 > device da0 at scbus0 target 0 > device da1 at scbus0 target 1 > options SYM_SETUP_SCSI_DIFF #-HVD support for 825a, 875, 885 > options SCSI_DELAY=3000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI > # disabled:0 (default), enabled:1 > # SCSI peripherals > device scbus # SCSI bus (required) > device da # Direct Access (disks) > device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) > device cd # CD > device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) > > # Firewire support > device firewire # Firewire bus code > device sbp # SCSI over Firewire (Requires scbus and > da) # device fwe # Ethernet over Firewire > (non-standard!) > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > On bootup with my firewire drive plugged in everything is fine. > > Unplugging the firewire cable gives this in my console: > fwohci0: BUS reset > fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc0, gen=2, CYCLEMASTER mode > firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop <= 0, cable IRM = 0 (me) > firewire0: bus manager 0 (me) > > plugging the firewire cable back in gives this: > fwohci0: BUS reset > fwohci0: node_id=0xc800ffc1, gen=3, CYCLEMASTER mode > fwohci0: SID Error > > At this point I cannot mount the firewire drive anymore. I haven't see SID Error. The chipset I normally use is the Agere/Lucent one fwohci0: <Lucent FW322/323> mem 0xdc042000-0xdc042fff irq 11 at device 9.0 on pci0 but I do have a fwohci0: <Texas Instruments TSB12LV26> mem 0xe9020000-0xe9023fff,0xe9026000-0xe90267ff irq 5 at device 10.0 on pci0 Both work with the Mapower enclosure, the guts of which is a Sep 2 07:35:53 current kernel: da0: <Wise Adv Wise Advanced ID 0129> Fixed Simplified Direct Access SCSI-4 device And a USB2/Firewire enclosure which looks like Apr 26 12:56:05 alwinrc /kernel: da0: <Oxford 911D 0037> Fixed Simplified Direct Access SCSI-4 device Although I have not verified that the latter enclosure works with the Ti PCI card. I have tried the Ti card in current but not stable, however the code is pretty similar between the two I believe. > I have tried using 'fwcontrol -r' but no luck. > > Any help or pointers appreciated. Have you tried a different port? -- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 9A8C 569F 685A D928 5140 AE4B 319B 41F4 5D17 FDD5
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