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Date:      Tue, 9 Dec 2003 17:00:33 -0500
From:      Bill Vermillion <bv@wjv.com>
To:        freebsd-isp@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Who are using FreeBSD for Hosting Env. and Which Update Method
Message-ID:  <20031209220033.GA87019@wjv.com>
In-Reply-To: <1071005801.15221.216.camel@unixws1>
References:  <042601c3be94$c2ff3bd0$019c9752@xp> <001d01c3be97$90ac83b0$3d1f1fac@corp.firstlink.com> <20031209212344.GB93443@complx.LF.net> <1071005801.15221.216.camel@unixws1>

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Somewhere around Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 15:36 , the world stopped and listened
as Adam Maloney graced us with this profound tidbit of wisdom
 that would fulfill the ejoyment of future generations:

> Just thought I'd add my $.02

> > Yes. Only a short time (during the installworld and mergemaster)
> > the system is in a somehow fragile state, but it works most of
> > the time, so we do it in multiuser.

> On most of my boxes I do the installs and merge in multiuser
> mode. I'm a little more nervous about mail, so I always do it in
> single-user mode on the mailserver. Fragile is a good word for
> this state.

It's nice when you have the luxury of being able to phsyically
touch the machines.  I do my upgrades remotely in MU mode.
In case of crash it will take me about 30 minutes to get to the
machines - but there is really no place to work except in awkward
standing modes with rack doors open.

I've never had a problem - but have always been perpared for one.

> > Good question 8-)

> I have always done source, and I always sync with stable and
> re-build everything (rather than using patches). Why? It just
> "feels" right :)

And since I do it remotely, I login, build with nohup and logout
and check the logs the next day.  Beside 'feeling right' - I don't
have to do anyting.  I tell it to do it, and it does it.

Bill

-- 
Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com



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