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Date:      Mon, 2 Feb 2004 09:40:06 -0800 (PST)
From:      "JJB" <Barbish3@adelphia.net>
To:        freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   RE: conf/62230: log-in-vain issues it's msg every time 'mail' command is used.
Message-ID:  <200402021740.i12He6j1005122@freefall.freebsd.org>

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The following reply was made to PR conf/62230; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: "JJB" <Barbish3@adelphia.net>
To: "Ceri Davies" <ceri@FreeBSD.org>,
	<bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net>
Cc: <freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org>, <freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org>,
	<questions@freebsd.org>
Subject: RE: conf/62230: log-in-vain issues it's msg every time 'mail' command is used.
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 12:39:08 -0500

 I disagree with you on this.
 
 Log-in-vain purpose in life is to interrogate attempts from
 the external interface, not the localhost internal functions,
 which this clearly is what is happening.
 
 Sure there are work around solutions for this bug.
 
 If you think this is such an trivial annoyance bug that it's
 does not warrant attention, then just come out and say so,
 and not beat around the bush with work around solutions in an
 poor effort to conceal your reluctance to perform system
 maintenance activities.
 
 From what little documentation is published on Log-in-vain,
 it is not functioning correctly, period.
 
 Anybody look at the percentage of bug reports that get closed
 right out of hand to the ones that really get serious attention?
 Maybe there is some thing wrong with the evaluation criteria you
 people use to evaluate bug reports like this one.
 
 This is not an single event but an attitude that is too common
 among the people who review newly filed bug reports.
 It does nothing to foster confidence in the bug report system,
 or for that matter in the quality of the overall FBSD system.
 
 Just my observations of the over all bug reporting system, it stinks
 and needs to be readdressed so it's more amiable to really getting
 bugs fixed and not passing the buck, offering work around solutions.
 Just because there are many work around solutions does not warrant
 not
 fixing the bug causing the problem in the first place.
 
 No use beating an dead horse who can't hear what being said anyway.
 
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
 From: Ceri Davies [mailto:ceri@FreeBSD.org]
 Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 11:22 AM
 To: FBSD_User@a1poweruser.com; ceri@FreeBSD.org;
 freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org
 Subject: Re: conf/62230: log-in-vain issues it's msg every time
 'mail' command is used.
 
 Synopsis: log-in-vain issues it's msg every time 'mail' command is
 used.
 
 State-Changed-From-To: open->closed
 State-Changed-By: ceri
 State-Changed-When: Mon Feb 2 08:20:36 PST 2004
 State-Changed-Why:
 This is not a problem with the log in vain code, which is doing
 exactly
 as it's supposed to do, but rather with the configuration of your
 mail
 related daemons.
 
 As suggested by Bjoern A. Zeeb, you should sent a post to
 questions@FreeBSD.org asking for help on configuring your system to
 resolve these issues.
 
 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=62230
 



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