Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 18:55:13 +0200 From: Max Laier <max@love2party.net> To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Cc: zeratul2@wanadoo.es Subject: Re: some PRs Message-ID: <200407191855.19885.max@love2party.net> In-Reply-To: <20040719.081356.51946167.imp@bsdimp.com> References: <20040718184008.GC57678@darkness.comp.waw.pl> <20040719075952.GG57678@darkness.comp.waw.pl> <20040719.081356.51946167.imp@bsdimp.com>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] On Monday 19 July 2004 16:13, M. Warner Losh wrote: > In message: <20040719075952.GG57678@darkness.comp.waw.pl> > > Pawel Jakub Dawidek <pjd@FreeBSD.org> writes: > : On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 12:58:25AM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote: > : +> : Even if it is used by some programms, I don't see it in the base > : system. +> : It can be always implemented as a kernel module and > : maintained outside +> : the tree. > : +> > : +> Given that it is implemented in this driver in about 20 lines, I think > : +> that it makes sense to have it in the base. Suggesting it be > : +> maintained outside of the tree is just plain silly. It should be > : +> brought in or abadoned. > : > : It isn't even used by one of our 11000 ports and you want to bring it > : into base system? We don't have other devices in the tree, which are > : actually used by some ports. I still think, that if a port which is using > : /dev/full will be created, device should be maintained there. > : EOT. > > I guess my point is that that creates so much more work that it seems > like overkill. We often put things into the base system for > compatibility, but rely on out of system things for higher level > functionality. The question to me is, do we really want to support (read fertilize) such a stupid thing? Given the chance that once we do support it people will use it. In my opinion it is bad to integrate something into base that we agree is nothing one should ever have created (at least that's my reading of the thread so far). I see no user-pessure for this. I do agree however, that suggesting to maintain something that cannot be done in userland outside the tree is not a good solution. Still, I feel like this is something that belongs into the linux compat code, at best (maybe behind an "option LINUX_STUPIDITY" ....) -- /"\ Best regards, | mlaier@freebsd.org \ / Max Laier | ICQ #67774661 X http://pf4freebsd.love2party.net/ | mlaier@EFnet / \ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | Against HTML Mail and News [-- Attachment #2 --] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBA+/z3XyyEoT62BG0RAoN0AJkBZ5eZCUQi1pAbYfO9Q0aiX13FMQCfce9B ymqXsIq22Znhv5bcfO2h7PI= =XBCc -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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