Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 03:27:26 +0000 From: David O'Brien <obrien@FreeBSD.ORG> To: Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@Leidinger.net> Cc: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dependancy hell, post linux_base-8 conversion Message-ID: <20050207032726.GA20407@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20050117123600.4eab233c@Magellan.Leidinger.net> References: <20050116034626.GA24533@dragon.nuxi.com> <20050116120034.1bad2a84@Magellan.Leidinger.net> <20050116212651.GA58620@dragon.nuxi.com> <20050117123600.4eab233c@Magellan.Leidinger.net>
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On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 12:36:00PM +0100, Alexander Leidinger wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 13:26:51 -0800
> "David O'Brien" <obrien@freebsd.org> wrote:
>
> > > This is the dependency list of our native xorg-libraries port:
> > ..snip..
> > > Does this answer your question?
> >
> > Not sure if you're trying to say "YES, we like it."
>
> The X11 libs depend upon the expat and fontconfig libs. So yes, we like
> to specify the dependencies. You expect to be able to use acroread when
> you install it, aren't you?
Yes, I do expect to be able to use 'acroread'. But I don't see why the
x11/linux-XFree86-libs shouldn't just include x11-fonts/linux-fontconfig.
You can't use XFree86-libs without fontconfig. Again the difference
between the FreeBSD native X11 is we *build* it from source, so the
finer granularity [might be] good. With the Linux bits, we install
rebuilt *binaries*.
I can see that textproc/linux-expat is practically required if one is
using linux_base-8, from the use of 'expat' in native FreeBSD ports. So
again, why shouldn't linux_base-8 just include it? Else why don't we
break linux_base-8 into 33 different ports based on the RPM's used??
Surely 'slang' isn't used as much as 'expat'. Why is there an 'info'
command in linux_base-8? The native FreeBSD 'info' will work fine. Same
for 'bzip2' (I can understand bzip2-libs). Or how about 'popt'?
Just look at typical FreeBSD installation:
$ wc /var/db/pkg/popt-1.7/+REQUIRED_BY
7 7 145 /var/db/pkg/popt-1.7/+REQUIRED_BY
$ wc /var/db/pkg/expat-1.95.8/+REQUIRED_BY
85 85 1353 /var/db/pkg/expat-1.95.8/+REQUIRED_BY
> The alternative is to add implicit dependencies to all other ports. We
> don't do this for our FreeBSD ports (most of the time), so why should we
> do it in the linux ports?
I'm talking about more bundling, not removing dependancies so that one
cannot run the applications they want to.
--
-- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org)
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