Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:43:29 +0200 (CEST) From: Oliver Fromme <olli@lurza.secnetix.de> To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Samsung X20-XVM 1600-V Message-ID: <200507071543.j67FhTdI076080@lurza.secnetix.de> In-Reply-To: <42CD41A5.8050703@ultra-secure.de>
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Rainer Duffner <rainer@ultra-secure.de> wrote: > Oliver Fromme wrote: > > Rainer Duffner <rainer@ultra-secure.de> wrote: > > > They don't say how long it takes to "pick" it up > > > > Yes, they do: Next workday. > > > > > and you don't know how long it takes until you get it back. > > > > 5 to 7 days, including pick-up and return. > > That's good. > From FSC, I'd get a replacement notebook meanwhile (at least, my > colleague was offered one, when he went to Sinitec's service-point with > his E7010). That's nice indeed. That's something Samsung doesn't do (at least it's not mentioned in their terms and conditions). However, privately it's not a big problem for me to life without a notebook for a week (or even two). If necessary I can use my GF's computer, or drag an old miditower from the basement. > You pay twice the price basically for that fact that: > - you've got extended warranty (3 years) You can get that optionally at Samsung, too (i.e. 3 years instead of two). Costs a bit more, of course. > - replacement-parts will be available for 3 or 5 years (at a price, > possibly) > - the notebooks are generally less susceptible to breakage I'm not convinced that's not a prejudice. It might be true for specific vendors, though ... For example, I've had several Gericom notebooks in my hands, and they all looked and felt cheap and fragile (rickety plastic etc.). However, even that might be a prejudice of mine. I've also seen IBM notebooks that looked like they would break if you just stared at them. :-) > - for a Dell, your support-calls are not routed to India ;-) Samsung has a German service hotline. > I can say that compared to the Samsungs I've seen in store, my Lifebook > feels much more robust, though this comes at the price of higher weight. > If you have the samsung in front of you, open the lid and close it > several times and ask yourself: "Can I do that 1500 times?" > ;-) I've seen the predecessor of the notebook in question (the X20 1600-III model) at a store. It made quite a robust impression, the case is made of a magnesium alloy, and the weight is 2400g, which is pretty OK. Yes, that's including batteries. > The saying in de.comp.sys.notebooks goes like this: "Buy too cheap and > you're going to buy twice". "Cheap" and "too cheap" aren't necessarily the same thing. I guess the people to which the saying applies are those "consumers" who look at the price only, but not at details like the vendor warranty, the robustness of the case, or even the difference between Pentium-M and Celeron-M. All of those are important points for me, but that does _not_ meant that the price is completely meaningless to me. > They'll also recommend you HP, IBM, Dell and FSC there, together with > Acer-laptops (yuk). If they recommend me a handful of vendors, based on past reputation of those vendors (which might be prejudice or just personal preference), without knowing my needs and requirements (which is, first and foremost, FreeBSD support, and not being overpriced), then my opinion is that that recommendation is just worthless bullshit. (Sorry for the strong language.) > Dell is also quite good (I hear), and the hardware is pretty "standard" > for a notebook. Yes, that's what I've heard, too. > Too bad you can't go to a shop and try-before-you buy. That's the problem. I'm not going to buy a notebook that I haven't tried myself before. For that reason, my choice of notebooks is limited to those models that are available from local shops. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 München Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. "[...] one observation we can make here is that Python makes an excellent pseudocoding language, with the wonderful attribute that it can actually be executed." -- Bruce Eckel
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