Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 19:53:00 -0700 From: Danny Howard <dannyman@toldme.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make -j as a stress test (was: Re: Quality of FreeBSD) [WARNING - 6.0-BETA1 still hosed!] Message-ID: <20050723025300.GY24353@ratchet.nebcorp.com> In-Reply-To: <20050722195357.GB95692@FS.denninger.net> References: <20050721192613.GA61902@FS.denninger.net> <6.2.1.2.0.20050721153750.0851fab0@64.7.153.2> <20050721202234.GA62615@FS.denninger.net> <20050722004340.H16902@fledge.watson.org> <20050722001253.GA70277@FS.denninger.net> <20050722013605.U16902@fledge.watson.org> <20050722010611.GA72234@FS.denninger.net> <42E0F93E.7000108@commit.it> <20050722194009.GA95692@FS.denninger.net> <20050722195357.GB95692@FS.denninger.net>
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On Fri, Jul 22, 2005 at 02:53:57PM -0500, Karl Denninger wrote: [...] > Note carefully from this that there is NO ERROR INDICATION AS TO WHY THE > DISK DETACHED! > > At least with the 5.x problems you'd SEE an error before it went BOOM. > > This time around, nope - just death. > > What's worse, the complaints continue even through a shutdown ... While I agree with Karl that introducing instability is a very bad thing, I guess we now have an answer to Karl's vexation yesterday: [ http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2005-July/017210.html ] "What I don't understand Robert is why Soren's code is "too sensitive" to commit, but the explosive reduction in stability that the changes made between 4.x and 5.3 caused weren't enough to back THAT out until it could be fixed." The answer would seem to be that when someone actually does test the untested code, it is even worse than the code we are already upset with. :) Love, -danny -- http://dannyman.toldme.com/
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