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Date:      Sat, 15 Oct 2005 14:02:48 +0100
From:      Ceri Davies <ceri@submonkey.net>
To:        Remko Lodder <remko@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Tom Rhodes <trhodes@FreeBSD.org>, doc@FreeBSD.org, Marc Fonvieille <blackend@FreeBSD.org>, Joel Dahl <joel@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: docs/87445: comments for improvement of	handbook/kernelconfig-config.html
Message-ID:  <20051015130248.GV99170@submonkey.net>
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On Sat, Oct 15, 2005 at 02:48:02PM +0200, Remko Lodder wrote:
> Marc Fonvieille wrote:
> >On Sat, Oct 15, 2005 at 01:20:37PM +0100, Ceri Davies wrote:
> >
> >>[ Moved to doc@ from some other place ]
> >>
> >>On Sat, Oct 15, 2005 at 05:58:37AM -0400, Tom Rhodes wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>                                                   Or perhaps
> >>>4.X will be knifed from the handbook.  And most likely, the
> >>>only people who will expect it coming will be those that aren't
> >>>going to stand in my way.[1]  :)
> >>>
> >>>[1]: Please don't take that as if it's rude, I'm actually
> >>>    joking around with it.  Cause I know that if someone
> >>>    tried that, well, to core && doceng they'd be explaining.
> >>
> >>Actually that's a great idea.  There's no reason why we couldn't, like
> >>today, commit a copy of the current handbook to handbook4 and then get
> >>rid of all the crud from the real handbook.  Same deal with the FAQ.
> >>The information is still available then, but we no longer have to tear
> >>our own hair own trying to maintain the documents.
> >>
> >
> >
> >If people agree with that idea, let's freeze a Handbook4 and stop
> >"supporting" 4.X in docs.  (By "freeze" I mean no any new
> >addition/change beside typos.)  Let's then create a HANDBOOK_4 (or
> >something like that) tag for CVSup operations.
> >We could do the same for Handbook5 when 5.X will be dropped.
> >Well, we could do the same as the Security Officer and set up a schedule
> >for releases Handbook/docs support; this schedule will allow us to know
> >when a HandbookX freeze will happen.
> >
> >Marc
>=20
> I am very much in favor of this idea. Though, should we really tag=20
> another branch? We recently branched the documentation for RELENG6
> so we might want to just use that? instead of duplicating that
> information. On the other hand, a nice schedule and the availability
> of 'old' unused branches is also very nice.

I guess that this really would count as "sweeping", which means that
we'll have to wait a week or two.  At least that allows us plenty of
time to finalise the plans.

The important points are:

        i) Handbook-4 must still be available on the website, probably
           via the URL /doc/<lang>/handbook4/;

       ii) We must be able to rip out all the [1-4].x information that
           is in our way from the current handbook.

To me, that means:

        i) Laying down a (PRE_)HANDBOOK4 CVS tag;

       ii) Repocopying doc/<lang>/books/handbook to
           doc/<lang>/books/handbook4 for each language;

      iii) Perhaps throwing the build of that directory under a
           (defaulted to off) knob (that the web build can turn on).

where bits in parentheses may or may not make sense.

There's no reason not to lay down a new tag, especially now.  If this
becomes part of the release cycle proper then we could omit it then, but
it's too late now for 6.

Ceri
--=20
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm
not sure about the former.			  -- Einstein (attrib.)

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